I have preestablished biases and beliefs about the world, I acknowledge that and am willing to adjust with new information shared.
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why can't i mock your religion lmao U literally think i'm going to hell
I mean. 150 years is a long time from now- everyone on this site would be dead for sure. The average human lifespan is about 70 so it’d be I guess another 3 generations? 3 generations where women who were silenced by the Taliban can speak, where no one is forced to give birth and every child is wanted, where significantly less people are raped (as rape is seen akin to torture), where no girls undergo genitalia mutilation, no girls are forced into marriage, women around the world are free to pursue education and no assumption is made about their competence. The death of the Quiverfull movement and no girl ever again told she exists to be a helpmeet, nor that she is the cause of the world’s ills or that her body tempts males who do not have the ability to control themselves.
And that’s the shit I’m thinking of now- the shit that matters to me personally. The world could end in 3 lifetimes anyway at least this apocalyptic scenario makes less people suffer before the end.
if you could automatically delete all misogyny in the world: like it never existed in the first place, from all cultures and across all aspects of life, but at the cost of human life existing only for the next 150 years, would you? You get rid of no more issues, capitalism and racism still exist, but misogyny doesn't, from the most violent to the most banal, but in 150 years humanity will cease to exist, not painfully or violently, just cease to exist, would you do it?
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Okay so there are a lot of posts like *Marginalized females stop allying yourself with marginalized males they will be sexist like every other male!’ And it’s true- and I get it- but it also reminds me of our intersection problem. Like, okay, gay males are going to be sexist towards us anyway. Straight females will be homophobic. Black males will be sexist; white women will be racist. So if your alliances are entirely based on ‘who won’t enact violence on me for an unchangeable trait’ you’re kind of shit out of luck unless you’re already in a position of only one kind of marginalization. So you’ve gotta walk this line or ‘calling out inter community bigotry’ and ‘not getting labeled as the person causing problems by bringing up other groups. Even though you’re still part of those groups.
That wasn’t the original argument. Op didn’t say, ‘JK Rowling does a lot for women but her posts are bad’ it says ‘Rowling isn’t a feminist just Gender Critical.’ That’s why her actual feminist actions are relevant in this conversation in the same way it’d be relevant to bring up The Carnegie Foundation if we were talking about his views and influence on education (but obviously not if we were talking about all the horrible shit he did for workers rights.)
j.k. rowling is probably the biggest example of why i say that TERFs and GC’s aren’t the same group of people and they have a different orientation towards enforcing patriarchy. because rowling isn’t even pretending to be a “feminist.” she never posts about feminist politics. she’s a straight woman doing what they do best i fear (derogatory).
In the spring of 2023, several news outlets reported the heart-warming story of a fourteen-year-old autistic boy who made a poster and presented it to a female classmate, asking her to be his valentine. The girl said no, whereupon the boy's mother took to social media, recounting the tale and emphasising just how 'shy and socially awkward' her son was. The story got national attention and 'the next day at school, a number of [the boy's] classmates approached him with kind words and offers to be his valentine'. One girl 'presented him with a poster like the one he had made to ask the girl the day before'. He became a high-status victim, at least for a day; the girl he had initially asked out, a heartless bully. Yet what exactly had had she been supposed to do? Say yes when she didn't want to in order to spare him humiliation?
The story illustrates many of the problems with 'just' being kind. In the eyes of some, the boy's autism elevated him above the other boys who pressure girls to do things they do not want. His shyness and social awkwardness were problems the original girl could have solved simply by saying yes. Maybe she judged boys like him just because they were different. Her rejection became, not a simple expression of her desires – just as his choice to ask her, rather than another girl, had been – but a judgment on his worth as a human being, one which the rest of the world set about correcting. To some, the boy had a right to kindness and validation which the girl was withholding. But what of her right to have her needs respected? There's a suggestion that while all girls have the right to say no, it would make life a lot easier if they could train themselves not to, coupled with the old message that girls are better than boys at manipulating their desires – see how many of them were willing to approach the boy the next day! There's so much prejudice in the world, but if girls agreed to offer themselves to the boys who felt most left out, we'd have begun the work of removing it. Taken to its logical conclusion, this is incel thinking.
– Victoria Smith (2025) (Un)kind: How 'Be Kind' Entrenches Sexism, pp. 105-6.
why can't i mock your religion lmao U literally think i'm going to hell
It’s funny (evil) because what they just said is, ‘Conversion therapy works. If you try hard enough, have enough faith, REALLY want to you can desire the opposite sex.’ Anon would rather believe that’s true than that ‘reformed lesbians and gays’ who chose to be in opposite sex relationships instead of being celibate in a situation where that is an option… Are actually just bisexuals
Funny that you should mentioned homophobic Christian lesbians because one of the ways they suppress their sexuality is by fucking and dating men
Y’all are so funny
They’re not lesbians if they date men you dummy. I meant lesbians that just never date again.
saw on r/detrans that NHS england is setting up a new service for detrans people! REALLY happy to see this.
People deserve the ability to give TRULY informed consent about their bodies and medical treatment! Allowing detrans people to come out of the shadows and share their experiences will help everyone with GD including those who choose to transition, because we'll have more data!
I remember years ago a dear friend of mine got on T and I scoured the internet looking for research to try find out how I could support him/what he could expect from side effects. The main thing I learned (especially from a zine survey created by transmasc people who were medically transitioning which I've linked here) is that the long-term impacts of being on HRT are WILDLY underresearched (especially for trans men).
I would argue that this fits into the larger underrepresentation of female bodies in medical studies (though I'm sure the authors would disagree with me)
"I question how useful informed consent models are when there is hardly any information to consent too" is certainly a sentiment many radfem and gc people on here can relate too. I genuinely respect people like this for doing the work for their communities and find it rlly fucked up that the medical establishment can make so much money off of them while working with data from sample sizes that were much snaller than this because they don't care enough to test it more.
A U.S.-born citizen was arrested in Florida on Wednesday and charged with illegally entering the state as an “unauthorized alien.” Twenty-year-old Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez was detained for a day at the request of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, despite his mother producing his birth certificate and Social Security card at a court hearing.
Leon County Judge LaShawn Riggans inspected the birth certificate during a court hearing on Thursday, confirmed it was “an authentic document,” and said she found no probable cause for the charge, the Florida Phoenix reported. But a state prosecutor said that because ICE had asked the local jail to hold Lopez-Gomez, the court did not have the authority to grant his release.
When people die, others tend to ignore all the bad they did and act like they're saints.
So I just wanted to say that the catholic church protects pedophiles
“let women date men” “let women shave” “let women be girly and feminine” what alternate reality are you guys living in.
Grown women who mock 10-year-old girls on tiktok for using too much makeup and skincare are so ironic and painful to watch.
Acting like these girls didn’t get their ideas from you. They were listening when you were telling them how you should start your retinol treatment as young as you can. They were listening when you told them 30 step routine is a game changer. They were looking at you, at women on the billboards, magazine covers and in the TV shows with perfect skin, perfect eyeshadows, perfect hair and realised they should do the same, they should start as young as they can or it would be too late.
These girls are present when you mock other women for their age. Young women ages 20-30 get bullied for having normal faces. “Oh my god i thought you were 50” at a woman who is clearly in her thirties.
These “helpful tips” how to not get wrinkles which include don’t lift your eyebrows, don’t emote in general, use anti-wrinkle straws, don’t forget to get botox on time.
Red light therapy, sleeping with your mouth sealed, in one position on your back so either side of your face won’t get squished and swollen.
But these little girls are funny, yeah, let’s mock them. Why don’t you mock the promoters of these ideas? Why don’t you mock billion dollar industries? 10-year-olds at Sephora are funny, I wonder if you find the absence of women with real faces on screens as funny
Hey so
Why isn’t the left trying to appeal to the ‘Work is shit’ girls and young women?
Girls and women are expressing a dissatisfaction with labor as it exists currently in the western world especially, a system where the rich have obscene amounts of money to spend on bullshit while people starve. A system where they work for hours and hours get no free time and at the end of the month barely have enough to scrape together for rent, and if they get into medical debt? They’re fucked and they know it.
The Right says ‘that’s because you’re a woman, and woman are built for the home’ and the Left is going… ‘you dumbasses don’t you know that when you aim for that Tradwife bullshit you’re setting yourself up to be abused? You’re setting the feminist movement back. I hope you get abused.’ While males are allowed to make the same complaints about work and it’s NOT considered a natural result of male biology OR a justification to take away the rights of males.
Are you?
No I will not "look at the bright side" or "think positively" because I was born in a country where women don't have it as horrible as in other places. I didn't fucking choose to be born here, and they didn't choose to be born anywhere else.
If I were born in one of the 30 african and middle eastern countries where fgm is most concentrated according to the UN, my best scenario would be having my clitoris cut off without any kind of pain killer, with a razor blade that was never sterilized. They could also just decide to cut the whole thing off and then sew me shut, leaving a minuscule hole for my future "husband" to break through when he deems me worthy of his wrinkly, twice as old dick.
If I were born in Pakistan I could be one of the over 150 estimated women who get acid thrown at them annually, because their husbands (who I can assure you these women didn't marry by any real choice) threw a fucking tantrum over what they were wearing.
If I were born in America, where every 98 seconds someone is sexually assaulted, 91% of the victims being female, I could be one of the 1/3 of women who have experienced rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime according to the New York City National Organization for Women.
So with that said, I DON'T CARE THAT I HAVE IT LESS BAD, IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER
I didn't choose to be born in a country where I'm kind of viewed as an equal human being by most people despite the anatomy I didn't choose to have. Those 150 estimated pakistani women didn't fucking choose to have acid thrown at their faces. The women of america didn't choose the reality they live in right now.
I was lucky to be born in Sweden. I shouldn't have to consider being treated as a living, breathing human being as something lucky just because I have a fucking vagina.
Fuck the bright side and fuck your "optimism"
challenge for tumblr: view a post that says "it's good when women reject societal pressure and forgo shaving + make-up" and accept it at that. maybe even add something productive. anything but tired what-about-isms. please
Remember that if you or someone you know is being preyed on by an adult while they are a minor, there is a cyber tipline that covers international cases. If you have had your nudes posted online before you were 18, there is also a method to get such material taken down and the perpetrator held legally accountable.
women can’t make satirical pieces without every self important loser insisting every word is sincere ignorance or simply going “not funny (would be funnier if it were a man)”. even among progressives it’s weirdly common to think women are not intelligent or funny enough to do satire or even just a bit with deadpan delivery
"Men in dresses are seen as bad, but women in pants aren't!"
is not the statement that "men can't be feminine but women can be masculine in society" that you think it is.
Let me introduce: women with facial hair. Full beards. Mustaches. Bald women. Bodybuilder women. Women with visible body hair. These aren't "more acceptable" than men in dresses.
Pants don't have a gendered association anymore, while dresses do. There is something to be said for that, but it certainly ISN'T "masculine women are acceptable now."
… What do people even expect the answer to be when someone rejects them and they ask, ‘why?’ Because the ‘why’s’ going to hurt their feelings no matter what, it doesn’t feel good to not get what you want and all. It always happens too, people rarely go, ‘Will you go out with me?’ ‘Oh, no thank you’ ‘understandable have a nice day’ it’s usually ‘well why won’t you date me?’ What do they want from that? To be told they’re not attractive to the person? That they don’t share a lot of interests? There’s no answer that gets people into that, ‘understandable, have a nice day’ position… Part of me thinks it’s just to justify their anger over the situation. ‘I’m not mad that I was told no- I’m totally fine with being told no- but it’s kind of fucked up to not want to be in a relationship for <Any given reason> isn’t love supposed to be beyond that sort of thing?’
what i find most frustrating about the “do men of color benefit from patriarchy?” discourse on twitter is that those who deny that they do NEVER talk about the oppression women of color face from racism/imperialism AND the misogyny from their own communities. that’s how i know they care more about coddling abusive men of color than protecting women of color.
i learned that researchers historically have avoided using female animals in medical studies specifically so they don’t have to account for influences from hormonal cycles. This may explain why women often don’t respond to available medications or treatments in the same way as men do (x)
I’m not the one who compared Trans People to shifters, you opened up the idea that your ideas of the world are ridiculous enough that they should by default ally with you because weirdos got to stick together. Both you and most Radfems believe trans people’s existence should be treated more sincerely than that, the comparisons were calling that bluff.
It’s worth noting here that you’re making a transmedicalist argument and I wonder if you actually are one of the ones left or it’s one of those cases where it’s more convenient to say it’s what you believe. If you believe that the definition of transgender should be related to actually physically engaging in the medical activity of transitioning to gain traits related to the opposite sex instead of just saying, ‘this is the thing that I am’ than you’re correct that the therian argument is not applicable. I think it’s useful to have a name for the class of people who were and are oppressed on the basis of possessing a body with a layout to produce large gametes, that is a group of people who exist and are at risk for further violence on the basis of this reproductive role. As this role is called ‘female’ in every other mammalian context, I think Female Human is a fine term for them. If transmedicalists want to keep woman to mean ‘Anyone with secondary sex characteristics that resembles the other sex’, they can do that but all things considered in 2025, I doubt the value in denying the existence of primary sex characteristics entirely. I also don’t see the value in separating prisons based on secondary sex characteristics.
maladaptive daydreaming is more real than gender identity, and it’s a-okay to tell people to kill themselves
honestly - TERF arguments are entirely horseshit. they don’t care about science, they don’t really care about women’s safety. it’s a regressive alt right movement in the garb of a feminist
Oh shit they want to be a part of the ‘weird spiritual belief but go off king’ group?
That’s so cool, because no one’s legally required to recognize Therians as their chosen species or Kin people as their chosen fictional characters. It’d be considered kind of fucked up if a Witch came into Congress (lol) and a meeting was put to a stop because one member refused to acknowledge the existence of Nyx. If a Therian insisted on being in a dog pageant (because see, they legally changed their identity to dog. Because the government gave in to that belief because a small collection of them underwent surgery to more heavily resemble a dog to help their species dysphoria and the human government decided that it was more convenient to just say they’re dogs) and won because they can do dog tasks more easily, the reaction would be, ‘this is the dumbest thing imaginable.’
You guys don’t want spiritual weirdo comparisons, because the only thing spiritual weirdos get is vague acknowledgment and the ability to believe in whatever bullshit.
maladaptive daydreaming is more real than gender identity, and it’s a-okay to tell people to kill themselves
honestly - TERF arguments are entirely horseshit. they don’t care about science, they don’t really care about women’s safety. it’s a regressive alt right movement in the garb of a feminist
thanks tumblr, maybe i will try ringworm if you dont have anything else
… Tbh it feels weird to judge any female celebrity for being mediocre while males get to be as boring as they want and make millions from it (and get to be the ones in charge of the industry at large)
women’s bodies weren’t “made” to do anything, nature didn’t “intend” anything, no human action is “unnatural” and there is no inherent “purpose” to a human life
here’s your reminder that a lot of the violence against women and homosexuals in africa is perpetuated by white christian missionaries.
white christian missionaries are responsible for the death penalty of homosexuals in uganda. they keep going over there and reinforcing the believe of homosexuality being a sin.
it’s their fault that some african girls and women have experienced unfathomable acts of violence — by constantly influencing them to engage in purity culture.
death to christian missionaries and anytime they go to a country or tribe where they are not welcome and get killed for it, i laugh and smile. :) remember to persecute your local evangelical fundie. <3
See now I know you’re for sure scrolling through my blog lol.
I mostly think it’s fine to leave the conversation there because A. My information is very likely out of date and while I think anyone in a given industry (especially as a figurehead) is unlikely to talk shit about it because it puts their job security at risk, it’d be useful to hear the current concerns in the industry. And B. On the points that matter I don’t think we particularly disagree. I don’t think any industry should be treated as above scrutiny, especially from left-leaning people and groups. It’s gross seeing how supposed leftists reaction to fucking McDonald’s workers being overworked, underpayed and making a penny on the bosses billions their reaction is rage, they’re indignant and want to fight. But the same people when told about abuses in the sex industry respond with apathy. We should be working harder to stop all exploitation in society in every shape it takes in every industry.