Gwen X Miles - Blog Posts
they’re just hangin’
Im about to replay stray (unrelated), so I put on atsv in the background, and I realized something.
Gwens entire arc is in this movie is explained in the first 3 minutes.
All she does is talk about miles but she's constantly relating her life to his, saying, 'he's not the only one." She wants to be like him, have the type of courage he has to step up to miguel. Not only that, but she starts with "lets do things differently this time" so we know the version of her that is speaking is the one at the end of the movie, when she is trying to fix what she did, and unhurt her friend.
Please, just rewatch the first 3 or so mins of the movie and tell me im not crazy. (It is taking every bone in my body to not go off on a tangent rn)
It can't be that Gwen has already done most of the facets of an average gf/wife without being Miles' gf/wife yet lmao:
In love
Proud for your man
Sad puppy
Jealousy
Getting mad
Calm and asking for forgiveness
😏
Well, a storyboard has just been published where Gwen, at the beginning of ATSV, was going to see Miles' image, while she changed into her Peter at times, and I honestly don't know what the hell to think about this.
I mean, the first thing that crossed my mind is that, for Gwen, in this version of the storyboard, Miles is nothing more than a replacement for her Peter (Which in itself is contradictory because it is not known if Gwen even liked a little Peter), and if that were not enough, there was also the "Miguel calling" scene of the building where Gwen and Miles were originally going to say goodbye before he followed her to Pav's universe in a totally bitter way (And not exactly because of Miles).
Look, I trust that Lord and Miller are going to give us the most satisfying ending to the relationship between Gwen and Miles, but seeing as they have TOO MUCH to resolve in Beyond The Spider-Verse, along with this that was published, the thing in the next movie can turn out excellently well, or terribly badly, since they have to be very careful not to give the wrong message.
For example, I am one of those who thinks that in the BTSV epilogue, do not have Gwen go with Miles to her prom wearing the same outfit and at the same school, precisely for the same reason I just said. They can be much more creative and original than that, they can make them, for example, do a concert, or be at a meeting on the roof of Miles' house, etc.
Anyway, I want to know what you think, I really didn't like this and like the storyboard of "Miguel calling", it made me wonder what in the earth they were thinking when they did that scene.
(THE SPIDER WITHIN SPOILERS)
I can't believe how well these Tweets "aged" after watching The Spider Within ☠️
Sleep paralysis, a unimaginable pressure in his shoulders, schizophrenia (dude...), anxiety and panic attacks (if I don't forget something else), i think Miles said: "Ok i'm going to brake the record as the most dark and tragic character in the entire saga" 💀💀💀
Do you know why Spider-Verse Miles is my favorite Spider-Man?
He, without having a choice, had to do in two days, what took all the other Spider-Sonas in the multiverse weeks, become Spider-Man, all under the unimaginable pressure of being the successor to the previous Spider-Man of his universe, which left the bar too high, having to meet everyone else's expectations, and having to go through a tortuous journey while learning from his mentor.
Even when the spider-gang not only didn't trust him but even seemed to dislike Miles at first (Except, of course, Gwen and Peter B, who are very special cases)
And pressing him to see if he was ready and treating him like just a kid (Even Peni).
All so that he then went to his uncle, who was like a second father to him and someone who truly understood Miles, only to find out that he had always been a hitman, going so far as to almost end with the life of his nephew, until he realizes what he was about to do and... well, tragedy happens.
The death of Uncle Aaron, due to the depth and history behind it, remains the most tragic "death of Uncle Ben" in all of cinema... ever.
Miles stopped being the same since then, and even when a hurricane of emotions possessed him, he learned that no matter what, Spider-Man always gets up and keeps going, at the same time he learned to take his leap of faith. Before becoming Spider-Man he had a normal and happy life, but after being bitten by that spider his whole life fell apart, but of course, Miles is someone truly strong and full of determination thanks to the people close to him.
In two days, he surpassed almost the entire Spider-gang, and in a year and a half he become almost a professional as Spider-Man, even giving lessons to everyone else, and making it clear to Gwen and the others what truly means being Spider-Man, not standing by crossed arms while someone is in danger, but trying to do everything you can to save everyone, doing both things, even when it seems impossible, Spider-Man should always try, because everything it's possible.
At the same time that Miles felt stabbed in the back by the same people to whom he wanted to dedicate his entire future just to see them again since he felt alone and sad inside in the world without them, and, specially, without Gwen.
And let me remind something, Miles actually thinks she doesn't even love him and only sees him as a friend, but he still wants to see her
On the ATSV betrayal, he release all that hurricane of emotions that he had to swallow and accumulate inside during ITSV and during that entire year and a half for not having time for ALL those things said before, leading him to have anxiety and panic attacks (Something confirmed in the synopsis of the short "The Spider Within")
All so that they later reveal to him that he was a mistake, an anomaly, that he should never have been Spider-Man, that he killed the Peter of his universe, causing everything that gave MEANING to his life fell down in just a few minutes, leaving Miles more traumatized, mortified and with more trust issues than he already had before.
He really became one of the most tragic character of all the saga (Along with Peter B and, put it in some way, Miguel O' Hara)
And just because Miles looks with a cool and chill personality doesn't mean he's any less traumatized and mortified on the inside (An example is Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man).
Even though in the comics that nickname is only used because that is what his universe is called, in the movies, on the other hand, even though there are people on the internet who deny the fact that he is currently becoming an unstoppable phenomenon that is marking an entire generation and will mark future generations, Miles Morales proved to be, without a doubt, the Ultimate Spider-Man.
As a bonus, even though she always screwed up with everyone around her, both the living and the dead, Gwen showed that she really loves Miles and that he truly is the love of her life, however, needless to say, she has a lot of work to do in her redemption arc to be able to fix things with Miles, which will be very difficult but not impossible, even more so taking into account all the hate she received for everything that happened in ATSV.
Now she has to PROVE not only to him, but to all of us viewers, that she truly deserves to be with Miles, that they can have a life together by her own merit, and that all the hate towards her after the ATSV release it's truly unfair.
However, I have to be realistic, there are characters like Peni or even Peter B who should not be anything more than simple 'acquaintances' or 'partners' for Miles, since, with what they did, the term "Friend" It's too big for them.
In any case, Miles has the last word.
- "Ok but since when the Gwen and Miles relationship become a romantic story for both parts? 🤓"
- Since the fucking beggining LMAO
It is literally the best way to show that for Gwen Stacy, Miles Morales is not only someone PERFECT, UNIQUE and INCOMPARABLE, but that he is without a doubt THE LOVE OF HER LIFE.
In a society full of Peters...
She's a Miles<3
I'm sure in that part she said in a affectionate way or jokingly (Otherwise that wouldn't be very healthy for their relationship tbh) because when Miles talks about his maturity beyond the age he is during the tower scene watch, she laughs and keeps telling him how lovely it is to be with him. For the rest of the movie, he treats him in a normal way.
Gwen said "I used to play with these when I was younger, too" like she was 15 years older than Miles, not 15 months 😂
Now that I look at it again that frame makes Gwen's face look a bit cursed lol
I want someone to look at me the way Gwen was looking at Miles when they see each other again after a year and four months...
They said that Gwen Stacy falls for Spider-Man in every universe and this girl understood the assignment.
I still remember that when I went to see ITSV in January 2019, in the scene where Gwen and Miles say goodbye, the whole theatre got more excited than usual and they started to encourage them to kiss saying "KISS, KISS, KISS" 😭🫶
Even when they're knocked down on the ground they look so SOULMATES lmao
They basically spent a lot of time together in the bus scene and things happened that were never seen in the final cut, but said things did happen and they're there.
Why aren't we acknowledging all these convos Gwen and Miles had off screen that were confirmed??? He told her so much about his parents, she told him what happened between her and her dad. And that's just the confirmed ones??? They already share so much screen time together and yet we still don't know all of those moments that are just between him and her and not even we get to see it??? Oh my God!!!
And my favourite one: What was happening on that short trip when they took that selfie off screen in ITSV???? They clearly had so much fun together 😭
The writers said "it's between them and God it's none of your business" and I live for that.
Headcanon Time
Gwen secretly nicknames Miles as "Miley"
End of Headcanon.
I can't believe I just realized that GWEN ACTUALLY took the hobie's converse ONLY to impress MILES because he wore the Jordan shoes on his suit, and that she took the shoes RIGHT BEFORE she went to see him (That's why Hobie was surprised to see that she took his shoes)
Gwen kept the picture of her and Miles with her costume, hidden in her drum set, and I’m just wondering how often she’d stop and look at it before she went out to be Spider-Woman. Like, did it help? Taking comfort in the fact that even if she’s forever misunderstood in her home dimension, there’s one person out there who gets it? All of it?
It's like a competition to see who of the two is more in LOVE and Gwen definitely WON by far.
At their farewell in ITSV, Gwen wanted to kiss Miles but she hadn't dared to do it and she realized it too late (Her lips are all puckered up)
That girl revealed in polaroid the photo she had on her cell phone and brought it with her everywhere
Every day she thought of him for a year (and i bet she even dreamed several nights of him)
She literally hallucinated with the image of Miles in the windows lmao
She dedicated songs or long drum solos to Miles, venting like mad all her frustration at not being able to be with him (Yes, that is much WORSE than the drawings)
She could no longer lead her life normally without him
Gwen didn't care that Miguel had appeared out of nowhere until she saw her interdimensional clock and automatically thought of Miles
All the while Gwen was talking about Miles with her friends
For Gwen, Miles has ALWAYS been AMAZING in her eyes.
She put THE ENTIRE MULTIVERSE at risk just to spend an afternoon with the LOVE of her LIFE, it's INSANE
Her mind is clouded every time she's with Miles and several times she just gets carried away
She got jealous as HELL because Miles had a less than 10 second conversation with another girl and dragged him off on a LEASH
And she created an ENTIRE rescue team just to save him
Yes, Gwen is definitely the biggest SIMP in the multiverse by FAR
If Miles is in love with Gwen, she is TWICE (If not TRIPLE) as MADLY in LOVE with Miles
Best Spider-Romance ever. 🤍🖤
Honestly I think anyone who has been read 1 of my analysis can see what my opinion is, but I am curious about what the ghostflower fandom thinks of this.
Please vote and reblog so others vote too!
You can tell she's like, "SHOOT, I think she already figured me out."
Gwen's face after Rio said "don't take him from me" is killing me cuz she looks like she's thinking about doing just that like she's saying "look I can't promise anything, Rio, if I decide to steal your son I will. I'm pretty sure he's already mine"
SHE EVEN PATTED IT ON THE HEAD 😭😭😭😭
Her face when she opens the package is so genuinely calm (look at that smile), she has no idea that she did something wrong here. Y'all need to chill
Two separate times 😭
reblog if a relationship between a blonde and brunette has emotionally destroyed you
YES
Gwen telling Miles: "I love you. You don't have to say it back, though." in a mirror to the first film.
for the ask game can u do 22 n 20?
22 "How do they apologize after arguments?"
I feel like when they argue they get apologize within like an hour like, they could have been screaming for 15 minutes straight and in 15 minutes apologize and go on as they were
But I think that when the apologizing part is happening, they're really open with each other and say exactly what caused them to react a certain way, and what are their sorry about.
And then there's just a lot of hugs happening.
20 "What clothes/accessories do they steal from each other?"
Gwen is the #1 clothes stealer. Her wardrobe is basically 1/4 clothes that are actually hers, and 3/4 miles' clothes that she "borrowed", when miles is in her dimension, he "borrows" them back, and then gwen looks for his shirts or hoodies, and realising they're in miles' room again, she goes to him "forgetting" any clothes other than her spider suit, and then the cycle continues.
Miles on the other hand, always takes really random things, like scrunchies or pins, sometimes bandanas (Gwen still somehow didn't notice) 'cause he wants to have her things around his room, or on his clothes.
Thanks for the question :p
heyy, mind doing 1 and 2?
1 is "what's their love languages?"
so, i've already said this before but gwen is definitely a physical touch girl, while miles' love language is quality time,
BUT
what i also think is that they both share music as a second love language. miles will make playlists for her, and gwen will play him songs she has written, plus they'll both share their favourite artists from their earth.
2 is "Do they have a dynamic trope? (enemies to lovers, sunshine x grumpy etc?)
honestly? no. they are just so unique that i dont think they really fit into a category, they're just miles and gwen.
you can say they're kinda friends to lovers, but with atsv its all just really complicated, so i still think they dont have a dynamic trope, they just are- and i think its beautifull.
I love how everyone (including me) is convinced they're soulmates without it being confirmed in anyway lmao
A casual Thursday evening, George Stacy comes back home, and hears something coming from the bathroom. He Opens the door and sees Gwen sitting on the sink doing face masks with some guy he saw only in a picture Gwen had in her bedroom.
A casual Thursday evening, George Stacy comes back home, and hears something coming from the bathroom. He Opens the door and sees Gwen sitting on the sink doing face masks with some guy he saw only in a picture Gwen had in her bedroom.
them!!!
(i literally can't get mona lisa out of my head and this scene is so!!!!!!!)
< Gwiles/Ghostflower headcanons >
Gwen and miles were long in a relationship before they told Rio, but she knew about them anyway.
Once Gwen re joins the Mary janes, miles becomes her personal gossip partner
Miles once said that his favourite colour is orange, and weirdly enough gwen started wearing orange nail polish a lot
They unironically love to play Roblox horror games
Taylor Swift exist in Gwen's universe, but she doesn't in miles'. He still knows all her songs tho
Gwen knows some Spanish, but she couldn't really speak it until miles started teaching her
Shoulder kisses, especially in emotional situations
Gwen's love language is physical touch and miles is a quality time guy
Jefferson Morales still calls Gwen emo
when-you-whe-i-but-omg-when-
the way Gwen looks at him all excited and looking like she knows whats gonna happen but waits for his move
AND
the way miles looks at her with so much focus on her and his face relaxed and he's smiling a bit and HE KNOWS WHAT HE WANTS TO DO and-
2 frames before they notice Rio
"Girls...well there's one girl"
THAT BOY IS DOWN BAD