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Juno (Fem Guilliman) The Fem Primarch of the UltraMOOrines is dominated by her dear sister, Atlantia (fem Angron) Lioness of Khorne.
I feel like not enough of the primarchs really have memorable mothers
Like I can only really think of, Guilliman's mom, Leman's Wolf Mom, and kinda Putrabo's sister(not a mom but still very prominent/memorable woman related to a primarch)
Like I get it, give them Daddy issues before they meet Emps, and then they get to have real daddy issues, but still.
I feel that's such a missed opportunity
Like give Angron a warrior mom who survived years in the pit because she had to be strong, but something in Angron unlocks a violent maternal instinct she thought she would never feel. It's not the usual "motherly instincts" but more like a lioness'
Or give Logar a priestess/holy mother nun, someone to foster his love for the religion, encourage his blind worship and devotion. And thinking him a gift from the gods.
Like, I'm not saying replace every dad with a mom, but I feel like an even distribution would give more narrative creativity!
That's also how I ultimately feel about making some Primarchs into Fem Primarchs. I feel they should have had, let's say, half the cannon primarchs be their fem variants. I feel that for some, it would have fit their storylines better.
Like ngl, Morty is my favourite, but hot take...
I feel his story would hit so much better if he was fem.
Cause one thing I picked up on is not a lot of 30k/40k fans like mortarion, or they just find him boring. (Im saying most people i have encountered and also pretty much every 40k youtuber I've seen), but i feel if he was Mortica, something might click.
It would hit different cause now u have a girl being used and abused by her toxic father, and then her vengeance is stolen from her by a man she doesn't even know. She is constantly trying to become more resilient, turning her resentment into bile.
It changes the meta-context and the readers perspective. Sure, 40k is so far in the future that gender and sex don't matter, but us as outside observers would then think and discuss Mortarion/Morticia's position with the very raw reality of how a majority of women/fem people are victimised irl.
And when they overcome it, they're hurt, they're changed and far less willing to be corjal with people. They have every right to be mad, to be hurt, but society sees them as jaded, as "a cold hearted bitch" and "just broken"
And it's this meta text being super imposed from real life experiences and knowledge that makes Morty more relatable.
Especially to a fem audience. She would then feel like the definition of female rage; quiet, intense, lured hate, all hidden behind a mask. Despite most knowing what she has gone through, they still feel uncomfortable being around her. Thinking she could be nicer, she should be sweeter and bounce back like she was designed to do.
But she can't. She's been tortured, her only vengeance taken from her. All by men, all by psykers. She loathes them all. She's traumatised and has built emotional walls so tight, not even Putrabo(who I also feel would be fem) could crack them.
Yes, I concur.
Mortarion: -very Frankenstein's Monster coded -Jaundiced eyes -cuts his own hair (badly)
Angron: -biggest rack no contest -constantly flushed. he just radiates Red
Sorry, I'm reblogling cuz I feel nobody saw this ðŸ˜
Some shitty sketches of Bovine Juno reunited with her ex lover/sister Atlantia Lioness of Khorne
Happy Valentines Day! I'm just gonna go buy some more minis and finish my fnaf marines, hopefully.
Some shitty sketches of Bovine Juno reunited with her ex lover/sister Atlantia Lioness of Khorne
Happy Valentines Day! I'm just gonna go buy some more minis and finish my fnaf marines, hopefully.
I CANT BELIVE I FORGOT ATLANTIA IN MY COMPLETED POST!!! here she is the Lioness of Khorne, Queen of the Red sands! Fem Angron
This one is what started my fem primarch yuri kick. Still my favourite!
Chapters: 1/? Fandom: Warhammer 40k (Novels) - Various Authors, Warhammer 40.000 Rating: Mature Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death Characters: Roboute Guilliman, Angron (Warhammer 40.000), Ultramarines Legion (Warhammer 40.000), World Eaters Legion (Warhammer 40.000), Emperor of Mankind (Warhammer 40.000), Malcador (Warhammer 40.000), Lost Primarches Additional Tags: longfic, Dead Dove: Do Not Eat, Body Horror, Dialogue Heavy, Hurt/Comfort, Gross, Chaptered, Heresy AU, Alternate Heresy (Warhammer 40.000), Pre-Horus Heresy Civil War (Warhammer 40.000), The Great Crusade Era (Warhammer 40.000), Slow Burn Summary:
The Imperium of Man is nearing the end of the Great Crusade. Languishing on Terra, Roboute Guilliman has some suspicions about what’s really going on with his brothers. Forced into an unlikely alliance with Angron, he seeks to investigate the Emperor’s true intentions for his sons.
Primarchs
by Mauro Belfiore
Reblogging because my response has become too long to put in the replies:
I don't think many people view the traitor primarchs as irredeemable, and I think the number among people who are well-versed in Horus Heresy lore is even smaller. They are, from the beginning, tragic characters. They certainly have their damning characteristics (namely hypocrisy), but they aren't really presented as irredeemable--we even have explicit statements regarding redemption for two of them (Big E says Mortarion can be redeemed in Godblight, and he outright forgives Horus in The End and the Death Vol III). I don't entirely agree with your interpretations, however. I don't think any of them are irredeemable (at least, not due to their own actions), but I think they miss some key details.
For all Angron claimed to be standing against oppression, he spent over a century expanding the Emperor's (extremely oppressive) regime. There's no moral purity shit here, either--Angron is pretty open about how he hates serving the Emperor even as he reduces worlds to ash in his name. What you said about Mortarion also applies to Angron, because of the Butcher's Nails. He was denied the chance to die with his family on Nuceria, and for the remainder of his life before daemonhood, the one thing he wants to do is die. And then Lorgar takes that away from him.
Mortarion's fall is because, first and foremost, he cared about his sons. Typhus brought the legion to Nurgle's garden, and infected them with the Destroyer Plague. Mortarion fell to Nurgle because he wanted to end their pain. Mortion is also a hypocrite. Like Angron, for all his claims of hating tyranny, he still expanded a tyrant's domain for a century and a half. (Corvus Corax is also on this list, but this is about traitor primarchs, not loyalist)
Magnus' guilt is very hotly debated among the community, and both sides have a point. On the one hand, he did the best thing he could with the information he had available. On the other hand, he was incredibly cocky, and did not have a concept of restraint. He believed he was in control, and he was too confident in that belief. (Side note: I despise the troupe of super powers being a stand-in for being queer (or any minority of any kind, for that matter)).
Fulgrim never said "fuck it, I'll have fun". His fall to Slaanesh was driven by his belief that, after killing Ferrus Manus, he was irredeemable. He's an addict; he isn't trying to have fun, he's trying to forget reality.
Everybody agrees that Big E mishandled Lorgar, and that's the most favorable interpretation for him. His argument on why he isn't a god is literal abuser language ("If I was a god, I'd use my psychic powers to force you all to kneel before me, like this" before using his psychic powers to force all of the Word Bearers to kneel before him). And all this ignores the shit Kor Phaeron did to him.
Horus is the spoiled rich white boy of the primarchs. He didn't fall because he was lost because dad was doing everything for him beforehand, he fell because he saw a vision of the future where he wasn't given the credit he thought he deserved. And then, like anybody else who grew up being told the world would be at their feet, he lost it. There's other issues as well, such as taxes (Terra wanted to impose heavy tithes on newly conquered worlds, which Horus opposed because it would cause them to rebel), but "gee, maybe I'm not ready" was never an issue.
Alpharius and Omegon believed that they knew the Emperor's plans better than he did, and threw in their lot with the traitors because they thought that if the traitors won, it would mean the end for Chaos.
Perturabo is someone who chose to suffer in silence and hope things would magically change. He never complains, and then is shocked when things don't go his way. I'm fairly sure he's also the primarch that people find the most relatable.
Konrad Curze was certainly mentally ill, and he was certainly denied the help and support that he needed, but I don't think he was abused because of it. He's also the kind of person who thought that if you publicly lynched enough jaywalkers, crime would go down, and that the Emperor sending an assassin to kill him because he committed treason and genocide was vindication for his belief that any crime warrants being skinned alive as a punishment.
They may not be irredeemable, but their hands are fare from clean.
I love how much of warhammer 40k is clearly a bunch of white dudes sitting around, thinking up the worst shit imaginable and going "thank god that could never happen to me, the cishet white guy"
angron is a one for one depiction of slavery, yet is painted as the bad guy for wanting to stand against oppression
mortarion is disabled and constantly has his decisions taken away from him by able bodied people only to be seen as moody and uncooperative
magnus is gay or trans or both. literally a guy blamed for something he was born with that he cannot control and told you're bad if you explore this part of yourself. also you're illegal now
fulgrim was actively encouraged to pursue perfection, despite never being good enough for others. he pushed any personal pleasure aside for an uncaring crusade and then is demonized for saying "fuck it, I'll have fun"
lorgar. also known as "this is why you don't abuse your kids"
horus is the golden child who's sent out into the world by himself only to find out Gee, Maybe I'm Not Ready because good ol dad did everything for him then told him "figure it out lol"
alpharius omegon are the autistic kids who don't understand why pops is doing this, maybe we should do things a little different than "blood soaked crusade"
perturabo is the burnout middle kid who did everything to impress his father only to be told "that's what's expected of you" who then got mad since acting out was the only way he got attention
konrad curze has a mental disorder. and is abused because of it
all of these characters were so close to being some of the best representation for minorities we could get in media only for gw to eat shit right at the finish line because they can't commit to an actual story. and it's amazing just how little these writers understand that the things they depict are all real things that people suffer through every day, and are demonized for every single day, especially when we are told these characters are irredeemable and should be destroyed, no questions asked