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My Personal Ranking of Primarchcest ships

(Fav - least fav)

Guilliman x Angron - Pure Hate fucking. No real kink, barely any after care. The only foreplay is an argument, or more often than not, it's just Angron trying to shut Guilliman up when he rambles about taxes

Magnus x Jagathai - In my opinion, the most wholesome of all the ships. Like they might get a bit freaky in the bedroom here and there but usually no more than light bdsm if that. They love being flirty and just being around each other. Magnus reads to Jagathai while the Khan works on his bikes

Fulgrim x Ferrus - A classic, the ship that got me into shipping the primarchs. Literally femboy x Muscle Daddy. Fulgrim has every kink and fetish under the sun, and Ferrus indulges him because he loves to make his brother happy. They also love going out on dates and being cute together.

Horus x Sanguinius - I know I'm gonna catch heat for this one. Sorry, @moociaoafterdark . It's not my least favourite, but I gotta admit it's like a good in-between of Fulgrim x Ferrus and Magnus x Jagathai. You have the wholesome playful interactions with a bit more spice than Magnuthai. Like Horusang aren't trying everything in Fulgrims playroom, but they are definitely in a sadist x masochist relationship.

Dorn x Perturabo: . I wanna say hate fucking but like it's only that for Perturabo and even then sometimes. They're both their own brand of autism and they'll get on each other's nerves, but honestly, as a couple They're pretty "solid".

Konrad x Vulkan: Honestly? This is like the last ship I'll actually push for. Even then, I'm on the fence. I think these two are a wombo combo of Angron x Guilliman and Sanguinius x Horus. Like Vulkan being a pure masochist who regeneration from anything x Sadistic horrific Konrad who's constantly coming up with more torture methods to use on Vulkan. Vulkan is more than willing to take the pain if it means curbing some of Konrad's more vile urges.

Alright, these next two ships are honourable mentions. I could take or leave them. I don't really ship SHIP them, but I think their relationships would be funny:

The Lion x The Twins- Both Legions and primarchs have their secrets and play things close to the chest. I can totally see El Johnson treating his relationship with the twins as his dirty little secret. He would also be one of the only people to know their are two, not one. You also get to throw in some Twincest free of charge.

Leman x Corax - I'm mainly doing this one for two reasons Loud bombastic jock x quiet sulky goth/emo and reason two is the relationship between Corvids and Wolves. It's one of the most iconic symbiotic relationships in the wild. I don't really have more than this.

Finally, you're no doubt to notice I've left 2 out(no, not the missing 2). Well, for them, I have my own personal headcannons.

Lorgar- Huge fuckin simp for Emps but is kinda heart broken when he finds out he can't fuck God. So he goes to whichever of the couples will have him for a threesome sometimes. He's almost as kinky as Fulgrim but is unabashedly the most deviant of all the brothers. Sometimes Leman obliged and cucks Lorgar while spitting on him. Sometimes Horus and Sanguinius need a whiny subby blood bank. Lorgar is just a massive pervert.

Finally the best for last! My fav primarch: Mortarion!!! - so I put this in the tags of my last post. I totally see morty as Ace, especially Aro/Ace, but he's not sex adverse. In fact, he loves masterbating and has a few kinks that would make Fulgrim blush. He's truly oblivious to his brother's relationships, but he loves to get behind closed doors and not shower for weeks while working it to his own rancid smell. He might torture some serfs with his smell while forces them to eat him out. (What? You thought Sanguinius was the only Trans masc?)

Okay, this is phenomenally funny, but I have to admit I feel the "Book of Grudges" is totally a 30k death guard relic. Like especially because of 30k Morty constly telling his sons not to forget even one grievance.

And even though i dont play the tabletop game anymore, i feel u should be allowed to give a tallyman model "Mortarion's book of Grudges."

Eldarphobic Lion, but it's him reuniting with Moira and realising she is "lovers" with, not just an eldar, but a DARK eldar... And the two met in Commorragh, so at least some torture did take place.

But, of course, Moira stops him from hurting Neaera. She is good now, the two of them are with the Ynnari, the very ones that helped resurrect uncle Roboute! So Lion now had no choice but to glare DAGGERS at Neaera, while catching up with his long lost niece. Any time the poor eldar girl does anything wrong, Lion just goes:

Fuck yeah morty art!!!!!!!😃🥂😊🫶😍♥️

Fulgrim trolls Mortarion and uses Big Brother Magnus as a human shield

Thats it, thats the whole comic.

This goes out to the like two mortarion fans that asked me to draw them

A fun excuse to show off the designs, a return to form for me, im a cartoonist first and foremost,

@justeverythingnothingelse

This is to go with my other post where I gave my shpeal on why Morty works so much better as a woman.

I didn't wanna add this to it/reblog it with this because that post was too long already, and the other post was more about how there should be more primarch moms.(adopted mothers of the scattered primarchs)

And this one is:

Which Primarchs work better as women/femme:

Putrabo

Konrad Curze

Mortarion

Jagathai Khan

Magnus

Leman Russ

Okay, now explanations (warning this is gonna be looonggg)

Also, this is just my opinion. Please feel free to change and argue why!!! I love in-depth literary analysis and debate!

So, fist off after that, yes, I feel a majority of the traitors would make more sense as women, specifically their storylines, seem to work well with women leads. And would offer a more nuanced reading. (Also, this would totally piss off those fucking anti-woke chuds)

- Perturabo(Petra)- I could have also made dorn fem but I like the extra dichotomy their relationship is given as a brother sister dynamic. Both are different sides of the same coin. Even more so.

She would also be underestimated and compared to her shining golden brother. Her hate is that of women just as qualified for a job getting skipped over for an equally qualified man. (Yes, I know Putrabo's made to know how to tear things down where Dorn is made to fortify. But again, it's allegorical, that extra layer)

-Konrad (Kassandra)- she'd be such a Bipolar queen. Okay, done... nah, I got a little more.

So I feel not much is different until u reach that adult phase, more so than the others. Her madness and lunacy are painted much worse, but she's still on business. She despises her father(Emps) but does as she says. She's the freaky screwed up daughter (very Jinx-like) where Sanguinia is the perfect daddy's girl, and it makes Kass sick.

Mortarion(Morticia)- please see previous post

Jagathai Kahn(Khutulun) - okay, little out of left field, and truthfully, I don't know enough about the cannon warhawk to justify saying that a fem Warhawk is "better" but I wanted at least one othe loyalist fem primarch. Also, this lets me keep the yuricest between her and Magnolia (Magnus)

Magnus (Magnolia)- speaking of the red cyclops, I think having the biggest primarch be fem is just phenomenal, also it adds a woman confidently attempting to uptain more understanding of the universe as a whole, being very scientific in her approach only to be called sorceress/witch in the persuit of knowledge. And in the end, only to be driven mad trying to get even the smallest bit of control.

(Also, as mentioned above, a huge bonus of it keeps my Khan x Magnus ship gay and better, yuri)

-Leman Russ(Freya) OK, so I feel Feya works better than her male counterpart only because it would be almost poetic. Having her raised by a mother wolf and so she takes that role over for her sons(legion).

Again, these are just my opinions, so if u disagree, that's totally fine! 😊 I love sparking discussions and seeing where other people's heads are at.

And sorry if this isn't really coherent. I'm kinda writing this sleep deprived and starving. 😅

Imma make ramen now 😆 🤣

I feel like not enough of the primarchs really have memorable mothers

Like I can only really think of, Guilliman's mom, Leman's Wolf Mom, and kinda Putrabo's sister(not a mom but still very prominent/memorable woman related to a primarch)

Like I get it, give them Daddy issues before they meet Emps, and then they get to have real daddy issues, but still.

I feel that's such a missed opportunity

Like give Angron a warrior mom who survived years in the pit because she had to be strong, but something in Angron unlocks a violent maternal instinct she thought she would never feel. It's not the usual "motherly instincts" but more like a lioness'

Or give Logar a priestess/holy mother nun, someone to foster his love for the religion, encourage his blind worship and devotion. And thinking him a gift from the gods.

Like, I'm not saying replace every dad with a mom, but I feel like an even distribution would give more narrative creativity!

That's also how I ultimately feel about making some Primarchs into Fem Primarchs. I feel they should have had, let's say, half the cannon primarchs be their fem variants. I feel that for some, it would have fit their storylines better.

Like ngl, Morty is my favourite, but hot take...

I feel his story would hit so much better if he was fem.

Cause one thing I picked up on is not a lot of 30k/40k fans like mortarion, or they just find him boring. (Im saying most people i have encountered and also pretty much every 40k youtuber I've seen), but i feel if he was Mortica, something might click.

It would hit different cause now u have a girl being used and abused by her toxic father, and then her vengeance is stolen from her by a man she doesn't even know. She is constantly trying to become more resilient, turning her resentment into bile.

It changes the meta-context and the readers perspective. Sure, 40k is so far in the future that gender and sex don't matter, but us as outside observers would then think and discuss Mortarion/Morticia's position with the very raw reality of how a majority of women/fem people are victimised irl.

And when they overcome it, they're hurt, they're changed and far less willing to be corjal with people. They have every right to be mad, to be hurt, but society sees them as jaded, as "a cold hearted bitch" and "just broken"

And it's this meta text being super imposed from real life experiences and knowledge that makes Morty more relatable.

Especially to a fem audience. She would then feel like the definition of female rage; quiet, intense, lured hate, all hidden behind a mask. Despite most knowing what she has gone through, they still feel uncomfortable being around her. Thinking she could be nicer, she should be sweeter and bounce back like she was designed to do.

But she can't. She's been tortured, her only vengeance taken from her. All by men, all by psykers. She loathes them all. She's traumatised and has built emotional walls so tight, not even Putrabo(who I also feel would be fem) could crack them.

🤤🥵😳🫣🤤

My half of an art trade with @nobunsonpesach <3

Awww, he's so blushy!!! It's adorable 😍 ❤️♥️💓💗💕💜💖

What if um. What if I gave Slaaneshi!Mortarion a kiss. A gentle, loving kiss. Where is up to you. But like. 🥺👉👈

Honestly before he gets used to sudden physical contact the best chance to kiss him is probably when he is having a nap >:3c

He’d have much less trouble accepting gifts than actually being touched or complimented - I think he is one of those people who is a lot better with things than with people. Especially if it’s someone he doesn’t know

He would get more approachable with time though :>

Jebdkqkevdja!!!!!! 🥹❤️💖💜♥️😍🫠YES YES YES YES!!! I FUCKIN LOVE SLAANESH MORTY!! I WANNA SQUEEZE AND SNUGGLE AND SNIFF HIM SO BAD ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY!!!!!!

Honestly I have so many ideas about the chaos gods swap AU, but I’m worried my english ain’t good enough to actually try to write something serious

I might though try and throw together some facts and bits of plot if anyone would wanna read that 😅

Slaanesh!Morty has occupied my mind and he won’t leave (he is just too lazy to move ig)

MY TWO FAVOURITES!!!! 💓💕💗😭BOTH LOOK ABSAPOSITULY AMAZING!!!!! RGSQJBVAJVSYIB!🥺😍♥️❤️💗💓

Omg I’m bacc

Just for fun I wanted to see what would Traitor Primarchs be like if their Chaos Gods were swapped

So…. Nurglite Fulgrim anyone? Slaaneshi Morty?

I’m also working on Tzeench Angy and Khorn Magnus

I just think it would be funny seein them fall not to the Chaos God who “fits” them, but something so contradictory to their very nature that it could actually balance all the ways in which they are damaged… or at least, that’s what they would think.

You know my Moth boy be rockin' that triple C THICCC STANKY booty! GUILLIMAN ANIT GOT NOTHIN ON 40K MORTY!!!!

🔥🚨40K TUMBLR I HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT🚨🔥

*ahem*

ROBOUTE GUILLIMAN HAS A FAT JUICY ASS

IT IS SOFT, PLUSH, AND ROUND

IF YOU SLAP IT IT JIGGLES

IT IS NO MERE CAKE, THAT THING IS THE ENTIRE BAKERY

I had a fuckin abysmal day at work. So I tried to cheer myself up with my own personal design for Fem Mortarion.

The sticky notes are from work. Sorry, they're all kinda crap. Got yelled at cause despite having literally no work to do(I know, I asked) a higher up saw me sketching them out and told my supervisor.

My supervisor then chewed me out, Along with everything fuckin else wrong with me.

I'm just so so so so tired.

Yes, I concur.

Mortarion: -very Frankenstein's Monster coded -Jaundiced eyes -cuts his own hair (badly)

Angron: -biggest rack no contest -constantly flushed. he just radiates Red

Literally all the fuckin time! The only time I'm not thinking of him is when im thinking of Mortarion!!!

do you think about fulgrim? have you thought about fulgrim? will you think about fulgrim? when will you think about fulgrim?

YES YES YES!!!!! BE STILL MY BEATING HEART!!! HE'S SO BEAUTIFUL 😍 💜❤️💖💕♥️💗😭🥹 OP YOU DID AMAZING!!!

more moth

MY GRUMPY BOY!!! 😭❤️💓💕😍😭 I love ur sketches/ art!!!

Grump

Mortarion scoffing when you first offer only for him to grab you and hold u up to his rank pussy.

The boy stank is so bad ur eyes water, and he says he won't let you go till u get him off. Dosent sound awful until your jaw is sore, your eyes are burnt, and he says he's not even close.

You think you lost your sense of smell, and so you started to think this was manageable until

*Ppppffffftttttt, Bbbbbbbraaaap*

A new toxic smell completely overtakes you, and Morty shoves you even deeper with his tummy gurgling...

Everyone talks about how the Primarchs would eat pussy (myself included,) but how would you eat Primarch pussy?

Fulgrim fucks your face, holding you in place while you eat him out, moaning about how good you are, how sweet you are, and how hard he's going to peg you later.

You insist on Sanguinius sitting on your face on the pretense that you don't want his wings to be uncomfortable. His strong thighs shudder on either side of your face as you eat him out, struggling not to put his full weight on your face.

For you 40k fans, you offer Roboute Guilliman some stress relief from running the Empire. After a full-body massage so he's relaxed and loose, you get under him and eat his pussy until your jaw is sore and he's sobbing with gratitude.

Lily(Nickname for Morticia's SO) spent days making this outfit for Morticia. And tailoring clothes from scratch for her girlfriend, who is a 12 foot tall demigod, isn't the easiest thing in the galaxy.

The least Morticia could do is indulge in a few photos

Judge me if you must, but I think this is a cute head canon.

Morticia(Mortarion) is super grunge, sure, but i can totally see her after an isolating and stressful day leading a gruesome atrition campaign, settling down with her colouring book, plushy and playing old holotapes of some mindless imperial propaganda cartoon(think old loony toons)

This may not be a popular way to unwind, but it's her's.

So I have an ongoing series for making the Fem Primarchs into monstergirls. Here are my finished pieces in the project so far

I'm tweaking out rn this is my best drawing yet omg I'm freaking out

AND THIS IS SHIP ART god damn

The Emperor himself possessed me or something lmao

Primarchs

by Mauro Belfiore

Favorite Death Guard artworks.

ok but, genuinely, one of the biggest reasons I love the Death Guard is that Mortarion is a petty asshole with undiagnosed OCD and I relate to that for some reason

i've been thinking a lot about mortarion recently because i read mortarion: the pale king and re-read lords of silence and it's so interesting to me how mortarion seems to have a lot of fixations that border on compulsions.

in lords of silence, vorx describes mortarion as having "relentless superstitions" even before the heresy. mortarion also has "an exaggerated interest in names, bordering on obsession" that has "only grown" since his ascension to daemon prince. mortarion's manse on the plague planet also seems to be subject to this:

"The gates are, like everything here, a parody. They are, it is said, seven centimetres taller than the Eternity Gate on Terra. Just seven. Mortarion did a lot of things like that -- petty things, mediocre digs at fate. The cupola is slightly taller than that raised over the Senatorum Imperialis. The walls are steeper by seven degrees."

mortarion's compulsions appear in mortarion: the pale king as well, particularly his fixation on numbers.

Sanguinius stared right back. ‘Help me understand this, then,’ he said. He pointed to one of the hills of corpses. ‘Those mortals, for instance. What are they doing?’ ‘They are tallying the dead of the Order,’ said Mortarion. ‘Why?’ ‘Because I commanded it.’

mortarion's behavior here is indicative of a larger trend within his character: his own desire for agency within a series of systems that do not allow him any. for example, lords of silence asserts the following:

"...it is said of him that everything came late, and with difficulty. He was the last to succumb to the full embrace of the pantheon. He was the last to arrive at the Siege. He was the last to retreat, it is rumoured, though others contest that."

mortarion is an agent of others' will. first necare, then the emperor, and finally nurgle's, and his compulsions appear to be a desperate reach for agency where otherwise he'd have none. furthermore, mortarion is fundamentally scarred by his youth on barbarus and appears to see himself in slaves and serfs. in mortarion: the pale king, mortarion is reprimanded by horus and sanguinius for use of excessive force on a planet ruled by small group of people who keep the rest of the populace heavily drugged, forcing them to work. his reaction is ultimately a reflection of his own trauma on barbarus.

furthermore, mortarion seems to be viewed as fundamentally broken by his brothers, which in turn fuels the death guard's us-vs-them ideology. (from mortarion: the pale king)

"The ship seemed unadorned compared to those of its brother Legions. The olive-green band of the emblem on its wings made the bone colour of the rest of the hull even more apparent. It was a machine that had been scraped raw. It was, Horus thought, a suitable chariot for his brother, and that saddened him."

"It was, Horus thought, as if no matter where Mortarion went, he never truly left the toxic world that had nurtured him."

Mortarion looked past Horus, up the slope of rubble to where the Angel waited. Mortarion was less pleased to see him. Sanguinius was so consumed by the illusion of nobility that Mortarion felt the Angel was perpetually looking down from on high as he circled an unreachable ideal. Why had their father instructed the Angel to come to Galaspar? Why not someone like Perturabo? He might have been an ally. And Sanguinius and Horus were so close. Mortarion felt a bond with Horus, but he knew it was not as strong as the one that joined Horus to the Angel. He was facing a united front, whether or not the other two would admit it, even to themselves.

‘We may hold this council aboard the Reaper’s Scythe if you prefer,’ said Sanguinius, sounding sympathetic now. The look in his eyes reminded Mortarion of their father’s sorrow, and he did not like it.

mortarion's nihilistic outlook seems to also drive a schism between himself and the other primarchs. mortarion views the Great Crusade with no love, contrary to the likes of horus and sanguinius who believe in the dream proffered to them.

An embrace was a promise of unity and comfort. That made it a promise of illusion. That made it a lie. He knew that Horus didn’t look at things that way. That didn’t change the truth of things. Horus was lying, only not to Mortarion. He was lying to himself. Mortarion put much more stock in his ceremony of poison. To share a draught of concentrated toxins with one of his warriors was to acknowledge the reality of their lives. He and his legionaries stood with each other, fought with unity, but never pretended that the ultimate truth of war was anything other than death. In the toast of poisons, there was no promise that could not be kept. It was an acceptance of risk, and of the inevitability of the end.

in fact, some of the only times mortarion demonstrates any affection or care are to his so-called lessers, including serfs and his own astartes.

At his side, Cinis nodded, watching in respectful silence for the manifestation of judgement. The serf was a favoured one, more disciple than servant. She took in all of Mortarion’s lessons and taught his precepts to the thousands who laboured for the Legion. Having come from neither Terra nor Barbarus, she symbolised the unity of all aspects of the Death Guard, and her understanding was profound.

mortarion first encountered cinis after liberating her world from the oppressive order aforementioned. in fact, in the pale king, mortarion actively chooses to humanize her, granting her the name cinis. in lords of silence, mortarion calls on vorx to fight "by [his] side, as we were before."

vorx earlier in the novel says this of mortarion:

In Mortarion, more than in any other, is conflict. Hatred was everywhere inside him -- of his father, of circumstance, of the Imperium, of himself. The poison of his foster world was hard to excise, and even if things had been handled differently by those in command, his would have been a damaged psyche.

mortarion's lack of agency directly ties into this. he views himself as being more similar to his servants than to his primarch brothers. the us-vs-them mentality returns.

ultimately there are dozens of examples of mortarion's issues across both novels and i have zero interest in regurgitating all of them. what is interesting are the implications about mortarion's character. mortarion's self hatred feeds into his compulsions; his trauma forces him to rely on them to regain a scrap of freedom.

his compulsive nature appears to contrast with nurgle's evident draw towards entropy, but i think this also fits with the nature of his character. he was the last to succumb. he continues to fight against the his own nature, because he doesn't know how to do anything other than fight. he doesn't believe in the kind of peace nurgle offers, so he can't accept it.

Daemon-Primarch Mortarion by Aeflus

Mortarion - sketchbook

Reblogging because my response has become too long to put in the replies:

I don't think many people view the traitor primarchs as irredeemable, and I think the number among people who are well-versed in Horus Heresy lore is even smaller. They are, from the beginning, tragic characters. They certainly have their damning characteristics (namely hypocrisy), but they aren't really presented as irredeemable--we even have explicit statements regarding redemption for two of them (Big E says Mortarion can be redeemed in Godblight, and he outright forgives Horus in The End and the Death Vol III). I don't entirely agree with your interpretations, however. I don't think any of them are irredeemable (at least, not due to their own actions), but I think they miss some key details.

For all Angron claimed to be standing against oppression, he spent over a century expanding the Emperor's (extremely oppressive) regime. There's no moral purity shit here, either--Angron is pretty open about how he hates serving the Emperor even as he reduces worlds to ash in his name. What you said about Mortarion also applies to Angron, because of the Butcher's Nails. He was denied the chance to die with his family on Nuceria, and for the remainder of his life before daemonhood, the one thing he wants to do is die. And then Lorgar takes that away from him.

Mortarion's fall is because, first and foremost, he cared about his sons. Typhus brought the legion to Nurgle's garden, and infected them with the Destroyer Plague. Mortarion fell to Nurgle because he wanted to end their pain. Mortion is also a hypocrite. Like Angron, for all his claims of hating tyranny, he still expanded a tyrant's domain for a century and a half. (Corvus Corax is also on this list, but this is about traitor primarchs, not loyalist)

Magnus' guilt is very hotly debated among the community, and both sides have a point. On the one hand, he did the best thing he could with the information he had available. On the other hand, he was incredibly cocky, and did not have a concept of restraint. He believed he was in control, and he was too confident in that belief. (Side note: I despise the troupe of super powers being a stand-in for being queer (or any minority of any kind, for that matter)).

Fulgrim never said "fuck it, I'll have fun". His fall to Slaanesh was driven by his belief that, after killing Ferrus Manus, he was irredeemable. He's an addict; he isn't trying to have fun, he's trying to forget reality.

Everybody agrees that Big E mishandled Lorgar, and that's the most favorable interpretation for him. His argument on why he isn't a god is literal abuser language ("If I was a god, I'd use my psychic powers to force you all to kneel before me, like this" before using his psychic powers to force all of the Word Bearers to kneel before him). And all this ignores the shit Kor Phaeron did to him.

Horus is the spoiled rich white boy of the primarchs. He didn't fall because he was lost because dad was doing everything for him beforehand, he fell because he saw a vision of the future where he wasn't given the credit he thought he deserved. And then, like anybody else who grew up being told the world would be at their feet, he lost it. There's other issues as well, such as taxes (Terra wanted to impose heavy tithes on newly conquered worlds, which Horus opposed because it would cause them to rebel), but "gee, maybe I'm not ready" was never an issue.

Alpharius and Omegon believed that they knew the Emperor's plans better than he did, and threw in their lot with the traitors because they thought that if the traitors won, it would mean the end for Chaos.

Perturabo is someone who chose to suffer in silence and hope things would magically change. He never complains, and then is shocked when things don't go his way. I'm fairly sure he's also the primarch that people find the most relatable.

Konrad Curze was certainly mentally ill, and he was certainly denied the help and support that he needed, but I don't think he was abused because of it. He's also the kind of person who thought that if you publicly lynched enough jaywalkers, crime would go down, and that the Emperor sending an assassin to kill him because he committed treason and genocide was vindication for his belief that any crime warrants being skinned alive as a punishment.

They may not be irredeemable, but their hands are fare from clean.

I love how much of warhammer 40k is clearly a bunch of white dudes sitting around, thinking up the worst shit imaginable and going "thank god that could never happen to me, the cishet white guy"

angron is a one for one depiction of slavery, yet is painted as the bad guy for wanting to stand against oppression

mortarion is disabled and constantly has his decisions taken away from him by able bodied people only to be seen as moody and uncooperative

magnus is gay or trans or both. literally a guy blamed for something he was born with that he cannot control and told you're bad if you explore this part of yourself. also you're illegal now

fulgrim was actively encouraged to pursue perfection, despite never being good enough for others. he pushed any personal pleasure aside for an uncaring crusade and then is demonized for saying "fuck it, I'll have fun"

lorgar. also known as "this is why you don't abuse your kids"

horus is the golden child who's sent out into the world by himself only to find out Gee, Maybe I'm Not Ready because good ol dad did everything for him then told him "figure it out lol"

alpharius omegon are the autistic kids who don't understand why pops is doing this, maybe we should do things a little different than "blood soaked crusade"

perturabo is the burnout middle kid who did everything to impress his father only to be told "that's what's expected of you" who then got mad since acting out was the only way he got attention

konrad curze has a mental disorder. and is abused because of it

all of these characters were so close to being some of the best representation for minorities we could get in media only for gw to eat shit right at the finish line because they can't commit to an actual story. and it's amazing just how little these writers understand that the things they depict are all real things that people suffer through every day, and are demonized for every single day, especially when we are told these characters are irredeemable and should be destroyed, no questions asked