Aw man, this Bagel really hit the- Hit the what?
MEGA SPOILER FOR SPIDER-MAN: ACROSS THE SPIDERVERSE!
The fact that they showed THIS scene š
Okay so I saw atsv recently and while I love reading everyoneās takes on the art styles, I have to bring up the music
Iām a pretty basic music nerd with minimal theory study, but Iāve taken to just playing the soundtrack. (Iām referencing specifically the Metro soundtrack, I prefer songs with lyrics, but Iām positive this will apply to the other soundtrack too, the crew of spider verse are that amazing) And in doing so, I just need to bring up how carefully these songs are constructed??
See, backing track songs need to be subtle. Thatās what (in my experience) can make them boring or difficult to compose - how do you make something interesting but able to blend in? But these people, theyāve just - pulled back layers?? And spread them out???? Rarely is there more than about 3 things happening at any one point in the songs, and it means they can pack so much into them. And more than that, it gives them room to give every song a style, a reference and a character to link them to!
Take āHummingbirdā, for example: itās the song that plays when Gwen opens the portal above Milesā bed. Then compare it to āSunflowerā, from the original movie. The artists are completely different, the tone of the movie has changed entirely, but the songs mirror each other!! The way the vocals have a little flick (flick? Reach??) at the end, the bass and trap in the background, heck, even the emotions they convey! Miles, in each instance, is at a turning point, whether he is aware of it or not.
But the composers havenāt just decided to mimic Milesā song from the original song - theyāve dampened it to fit the tone of the movie. The trap beat and pulses are muted, and the vocals are slightly subdued. And of course, the lyrics are very different. They are both about love, but one is optimistic, and one is resigned. GOD these people!!
And itās like this with basically every song Iāve come across! While a lot of the characters have less (or nothing) to compare to, the composers have put bits and pieces in to make the characterisations and emotions peak through. Just look at the percussion in āLink Upā (a mixture of the clicking from āSelf-Love, which kinda was Gwenās theme in the album, and the percussion from āSilk & Cologneā, which I think is supposed to be Milesā family and their party (?)) which I took as showing Milesā split between Gwen and the Spiders, and his family.
Just, this soundtrack has som much care and love stuffed into it. I donāt know how much this makes sense (Itās 3 AM), but I didnāt see anyone talking about it and that is a CRIME
This is part 2 of my Spider-Man Todoroki Au idea . This part will detail a bit of what happens at UA.
UA eventually starts up. And he decides that heās going to have to keep his identities separate. Though after a while Nezu does start to suspect something. (Another thing, he embraces his fire as spider man, his mentor basically told him that he canāt truly help people if heās not giving it his all) His spider suit is always worn underneath his hero costume, And the mask and gloves are kept in one of the compartments. Shouto is his normal quiet self, though he doesnāt use his fire (as Shouto the hero student) until the sports festival cause heās still a petty asshole. Heās also very lucky that none of his villains or any anomalies has attacked while in school.
The night that stain happened he was thinking about going out as Spider-Man to look for stain but then Endeavor brought him out to hosu.
He felt guilty about bakugou getting kidnapped at the training camp. He thought it was his fault and that he could have saved him if he didnāt have to worry about the secret identity. He was so close to going to go and save bakugou as Spider-Man but then kirishima approached him with the plan.
Once the dorms were put in place, it became harder for him to sneak out to be spider-man, But he still snuck out and was japans friendly neighborhood Spider-āMan. Sometimes his classmates will notice the bruises he gets but he can brush it off and say it was from training the day before. Mind you none of them suspect a thing or even get close to connecting the dots, because as Spider-Man shouto is loud, witty, snarky, and sometimes a bit cocky.
Eventually, Class 1a and maybe even class 1 b are taken to another training site that is similar to the USJ. Everything is going perfectly normal, Until an orange and red hexagonal portal appears right by the roof of the dome. And a version of one of spideys villains falls from it, Itās sand man.
Jirou would send a frequency wave at him, (certain sound frequencies can cause sandmanās form to become unstable), but she is taken out quickly (as in knocked out).
Shouto was in a group with shoji, momo, Mina, and monama, they also pick up the injured Jirou. They run to a hiding spot, and shouto knows that the gig is up.
While everyone is trying to come up with a plan, shouto slips behind them and strips out of his hero costume,putting his suit on full display.
ā watch my stuff, I have A planā. the others turn towards him, but by then heās already gone. His hero costume is sloppily folded up along with his gear. The only sign of where he went is a singular web hanging from the ceiling. The web is still swaying slightly.
So all they see is the lone web, and they immediately understand what is going on.
Shouto- ahem, I mean Spider-man is now swinging around the scene. While up above he sees Aizawaās futile attempts at shutting down sand manās āquirkā as well as several of his classmates attempting to attack the villain. (Specifically bakugou and midoryia, who are only pissing Sandman off) Also while heās swinging around, he uses the Goober to contact Spider Society HQ. Tells Miguel that thereās an anomaly but he has it handled, though it is possible that the whole secret identity thing was just thrown out the window.
Spider-Man swings up to the ceiling and perches himself upon the rafters. He calls out to sandman. āHey, Sandy! Youāre at the wrong beach!ā
He swings down from the rafters landing in front of Aizawa and the rest of his classmates. ā You need to gather up the rest of your class and get out of the way! Let me deal with him!ā
Sandman swings his arm down in a hammer like form, Spider-Man flips away from the attack, while Aizawa and the rest of class A and some of B run or leap out of the way.
Aizawa glares at the vigilante that has been eluding the Heroes for over a year. ā Why would I do that? Iām their teacher, itās my duty to protect them.ā
Another swing of sandmanās arm, he flips away once more. āYou Did see that he fell FROM a portal in the sky, Right? Heās-ā another dodge āfrom a completely different dimension, and the one heās from doesnāt have quirks!ā
āNow, Go round up the students! I know that youāre all hero hopefuls and stuff, but you need to let the professionals deal with this.ā
Bakugou opens his mouth to start yelling and throw a hissy fit. Midoryiaās face hardens in a way that means heās going to do what he plans to anyways. Thank god for Aizawa who seems to actually have a bit of common sense bouncing around in his head.
āMidoryia, Bakugou stand down. Nothing that weāve done to this thing has worked. We need to regroup and make sure that no one is injuredā
Spider-Man, who is now swinging around the dome shouts to the teacher, āI have a plan! But Iāll need you and all of your students in one spot to make it work.ā The masked vigilante points over to a somewhat secluded area on the east side of the building. ā thereās a group of your students over there. Round everyone up, Iāll distract the Killer Sand castle!ā
The whole time Spider-Man is quipping away. Iida makes a comment that āhe doesnāt seem like heās taking this villain seriously, how unprofessionalā
The classes are eventually grouped up and brought over to where Shouto originally left Momo, Shoji, Monoma, Mina, and a now partially awake but definitely concussed Jiro.
Now, Shouto remembered something that the Spider-man from the ultimate universe had said, Sandman, and sand in general, is a silicate. Meaning that if you heat it up enough, it will eventually turn into glass. āAnd no this will not kill him,ā Ultimate-Peter says, āIāve had to deal with him several times since then.ā
Spider-Man swings down to his clas- he means the students. Turning specifically to Momo.
āI need you to create a flame thrower, specifically one from the World War II era.ā
Momo, who is still processing that the spider themed vigilante was the quiet dual quirked classmate she had come consider her friend, started creating the flame thrower. The heroine in training handed him the finished Flame thrower. Spider-Man webbed it to his back and swung up to the rafters once more.
āHey SandMan!ā
The displaced villain turned to the arachnid with an annoyed scowl cemented on his face.
āEat this!ā He aimed the flame thrower at the Sand based villain and turned the fuel up as high as he could. Before everyones eyes, Sandmanās form began to solidify until it became a blue tinted-clear in color.
He turned off the flame thrower, webbing it to his back once more, and leapt down to the floor. He lifted his wrist up, tapping at the goober for a second before speaking,
āThis is Spider-Man of Earth-2016 reporting to HQ, do you copy?ā
āThis is HQ, what is the status of the anomaly?ā
āHeās been dealt with, but heās fragile right now. So you might want to be a bit careful during transport.ā
There was a deep sigh that came from the goober. āYou followed Spider-Man from Earth-12041ās advice didnāt you?ā
āYeah, is there a problem?ā
āNo, itās justā¦.annoying. Anyways, weāre coming for transport now, step backā the Black Blue and Red spider took several steps back,
Another orange hexagonal portal formed, a dark grey circular device fell from it. The device hovered above the villainās glass figure. A red glowing net surrounded the statues form. A second later it along with the portal was gone.
āWe got him, thanks for dealing with him.ā
āItās no problemā
With that the goober was hung up with a beep.
He turned towards the group of hero hopefuls and the two full fledged heroes. Aizawa and Vlad paid no attention to him, instead it seemed as if they were doing a headcount. A pit formed in his stomach. Vlad nodded, all of his class was present with no major injuries.
Aizawa, on the other hand, his scowl had deepened, Shouto hadnāt known that it was possible for his teacher to do that, narrowed eyes sweeping over the class. Jirou was the only one that was seriously injured.
āWhereās todoroki?ā His teacher asked. He saw the members of his group send worried glances to each other and then to him. Guess the gig is up, he sighed.
āIām right here.ā The moment he spoke up all 41 sets of eyes were on him like a moth to a flame. He slowly reached up and took off the mask, revealing his face to the crowd before him. He doesnt get a chance to fully take off the mask, he can see and hear police sirens going off outside the building. He yanks the mask back down, and as a precaution he webs it to his neck.
The officers storm in along with the EMTās. The EMTās go straight to the injured students, but the police stare at the training site with confused faces. Then they see him. Spider-man doesnt even get a chance to react before they have him surrounded. His arms are pinned behind him, and he can feel an officer fiddling with the Goober on his wrist.
āHey, get your hands off of that! That is a one of a kind device that you don't have the money or technology to fix if it gets broken!ā
The officer just glares at him, but he does stop trying to remove the Goober. Good Miguel would kill him if it got taken.
A pair of metal restraints are harshly placed on his forearms, and he has to hold back a hiss of pain at the pressure that theyāre putting on his spinnerets. āProbably Quirk suppressant cuffs, itās not like they're gonna do anything though.ā He could easily break the cuffs and get away, but with his luck heād probably become a fugitive of the nation of Japan.
The officers are about to drag him away when he hears Aizawa clear his throat.
āYouāre not taking him to the station.ā
āHeās a vigilante, there is a warrant for Arrest out for him.ā
āI understand that, but he still saved both of these classes' lives along with my own and Vlad kingās. I would like to have him questioned and dealt with at UA.ā
The cops were silent for a moment but they agreed to let Aizawa take him to UA as long as he was kept in the Quirk suppressant cuffs. The officers walked away from the scene.
Aizawa walked over to him and took him by the shoulder.
āThank you, Mr.Aizawa.ā
His stoic teacher just looked at him. āYou may be a problem child, but you are my problem child. Though this doesn't mean that you are out of trouble yet.ā
[ID 1: Rough sketch of Prowler Miles Morales from Earth-42 holding a spray-can labeled "Spider B-Gone," with a serious expression.
ID 2: Rough sketch of Spider Miles Morales in the "Family Guy death pose," lying down, back towards the viewer, with his limbs splayed at awkward angles. Above him is handwritten text that says "he got sprayed," followed by a simple sad face. End ID]
How people are treating Hobie Brown, and British punks / people as a whole, reeks of classism, privilege and plain ignorance. It's so painfully obvious when somebody who has no clue about punk history, or even the basic idea of poverty in Britain, writes about or speaks about Hobie and his universe.
Let's also discuss the way people immediately assume Hobie is a thief who has no hygiene, and how that's a god damn issue. There is NO mention in the comics or movie of him not washing himself or being a kleptomaniac, not only that, but aren't wicks hard to maintain? It's obvious he doesn't use 3 in 1.
This assumption of Hobie is racism and that much is obvious, but is also rooted in classist beliefs and common stereotypes about punks used to demonise the movement. People also threw around this 'headcanon' in the first movie with Miles, it's a CLEAR pattern.
Don't even get me started on cishet people in this fandom and how heteronormative / homophobic people are in regards to Hobie. 'B-But Hobies universe is the 70's š„ŗš„ŗ he'd hate gay and trans people...šš' Do your god damn research?? The punk and LGBTQ+ movements have always been closely intertwined. I have seen a comic panel where Hobie literally kisses Captain Anarchy, but even if that isn't real and was edited, he is still friends with Captain Anarchy, who's a confirmed gay man.
All in all, please, for the love of god, just treat Hobie Brown like you treat Peter Parker. Treat him like the well written character that he is. He's not some racist, classist stereotype you can push your bigoted beliefs onto.
Just wait until I get onto how misogynistic this fandom is toward Spiderbyte and Spidergwen, don't get me started because I will make another post.
Drawing Miles 42 (Prowler Miles) W/ Posca Markers
#spiderverse #spiderman #prowler #Miles Morales #Miles 42 #atsv
Wanna break from the Ads? l Drawing Miles 42 (Prowler Miles) W/ Posca Markers
#spiderverse #spidrman #prowler #Miles Morales #Miles 42 #atsv
Drawing Miles 42 (Prowler Miles) W/ Posca Markers
#spiderverse #spidrman #prowler #Miles Morales #Miles 42 #atsv
Or Earth 42 Miles is a vigilante instead?
And when they meet they start off with a misunderstanding and try to fight each other, but then they both realize that they're both trying to do good?
I can't tell if this is a good idea or not, but is anyone interested in writing a Miles Morales from Earth 42 (Prowler Miles) x Female or Gender-Neutral reader fanfic? Where the reader is like an alternate version of The Spot, as in they have pretty much the exact same personality and abilities as The Spot, except they're a teenager, a bit of a goody-two-shoes, spacy, and instead of trying to be a villain, they try to help people and try to (awkwardly and clumsily) stop The Prowler. Imagine their interactions are like the scene where Miles meets The Spot, except Miles is the one robbing the place. (I know that sounds weird).
And they eventually end up liking each other.
The reader keeps their original body shape/figure, and height but besides that, they pretty much look like The Spot. And instead of being a scientist who worked at Alchemex (I hope I spelled that right) they were just a normal teen?
Maybe they went on a field trip to Alchemax and got distracted and somehow accidentally got stuck in, or wandered into, the Collider, turning them into The Spot?
Sorry if this is a bad idea, or if anything I said was too specific or confusing. This is my first time posting something on Tumblr, so I'm also sorry if this was kind of awkward to read. But would anyone be interested in writing something like this? Or would anyone else be interested in reading something like this?
Also if anyone does want to turn this into a fanfiction (or has already) please send me the link! I would love to read it!
I can't tell if this is a good idea or not, but is anyone interested in writing a Miles Morales from Earth 42 (Prowler Miles) x Female or Gender-Neutral reader fanfic? Where the reader is like an alternate version of The Spot, as in they have pretty much the exact same personality and abilities as The Spot, except they're a teenager, a bit of a goody-two-shoes, spacy, and instead of trying to be a villain, they try to help people and try to (awkwardly and clumsily) stop The Prowler. Imagine their interactions are like the scene where Miles meets The Spot, except Miles is the one robbing the place. (I know that sounds weird).
And they eventually end up liking each other.
The reader keeps their original body shape/figure, and height but besides that, they pretty much look like The Spot. And instead of being a scientist who worked at Alchemex (I hope I spelled that right) they were just a normal teen?
Maybe they went on a field trip to Alchemax and got distracted and somehow accidentally got stuck in, or wandered into, the Collider, turning them into The Spot?
Sorry if this is a bad idea, or if anything I said was too specific or confusing. This is my first time posting something on Tumblr, so I'm also sorry if this was kind of awkward to read. But would anyone be interested in writing something like this? Or would anyone else be interested in reading something like this?
I can't tell if this is a good idea or not, but is anyone interested in writing a Miles Morales from Earth 42 (Prowler Miles) x Female or Gender-Neutral reader fanfic? Where the reader is like an alternate version of The Spot, as in they have pretty much the exact same personality and abilities as The Spot, except they're a teenager, a bit of a goody-two-shoes, spacy, and instead of trying to be a villain, they try to help people and try to (awkwardly and clumsily) stop The Prowler. Imagine their interactions are like the scene where Miles meets The Spot, except Miles is the one robbing the place. (I know that sounds weird).
And they eventually end up liking each other.
The reader keeps their original body shape/figure, and height but besides that, they pretty much look like The Spot. And instead of being a scientist who worked at Alchemex (I hope I spelled that right) they were just a normal teen?
Maybe they went on a field trip to Alchemax and got distracted and somehow accidentally got stuck in, or wandered into, the Collider, turning them into The Spot?
Sorry if this is a bad idea, or if anything I said was too specific or confusing. This is my first time posting something on Tumblr, so I'm also sorry if this was kind of awkward to read. But would anyone be interested in writing something like this? Or would anyone else be interested in reading something like this?
Hot take: the Spiderverse movies are quite possibly the most relatable superhero movies Iāve ever experienced because Iāve never seen a superhero movie nail the ābeing queer and closetedā experience down to a T
Like the AMOUNT of experiences they get down so well is just
- not feeling accepted anywhere, even within your own community sometimes, feeling like a mistake no matter where you go
- hiding half your identity from your parents (I swear to god that scene where Miles is about to tell Rio heās Spiderman in ATSV is literally me trying to come out to my parents and chickening out, it hurt to watch)
- fearing rejection from your parents (āDad, do you really hate Spiderman?ā)
- finding out the people you look up to and trust wouldnāt accept you and would actually try to harm you and the sheer terror that comes from it (god the Prowler reveal in the first movie still hurts me)
- gravitating more and more towards friends who are also queer because they get you (aka the spideys from different dimension just gravitating together)
- just. having a secret identity, in general
- the underlying theme of the movies that despite anything, despite the world rejecting you, despite your own community rejecting you, you are valid and you are loved and you should never forget that (which is not an inherently queer experience but g o d)
I could go on, but. Just. Dammit, these movies mean so much to me.
I LOVE THE SPOT SO MUCH AND I LOVE THIS MOVIE AUGHHH have some doodles of the pookie
Also I feel like he'd name the dog Blot.
ProwlerMiles and SpiderMiles have the same energy as Sonic and Shadow the Hedgehog YOU ALL KNOW THAT IM RIGHT
imma wait to say what I gotta say but for right now imma leave it at this.
Miguel was too big and grown to be doing all that.
Original Jokeįµį“¹
Miles finally got an explanation on what comic con is.
Gwen!! š©·š©µš¤š¤šøļøš·ļø
(Spoilers)
Okay ik this shot is funny
But have we considered how actually terrified peter b has to be here?
Like, he introduces miguel as his friend. We see he was there when miguel's universe fell apart. Miguel puts up with him bringing mayday everywhere and letting her climb all over everything. These 2 had to have been actually close.
So of course peter knew that miguel was going to talk to miles, maybe he knew miguel would say mean shit to him, but this is a face of genuine surprise. Not even the person arguably closest to miguel knew he would (or even could) act like this. Like, look at him!! Hes terrified!! The man he was there for during an entire universe's collapse, the man he considers a friend, the man he let hold his baby, is capable of doing this!!
The person up top is the one that made this. I just wanted to say they are amazing. Can you make another little clip of them? I absolutely love it!!!!!!!ļæ¼
i made a spidaman (theythem)
edit: their name is Sumo (jesĆŗs contreras)
i have a wee theory about the whole ācanonā events thingie mentioned in atsv. itās been marinated in my mind for a while. hereās my take, yes this will include spoilers, i love this film so so much even after my fourth watch >:3
1. canon events are not set in stone. or at least in the way that miguel makes it seem.
hereās my reasoning: there are some canon events that cannot possibly be met for all variants of spider-man (eg. having a love interest, getting married, being bit by a radioactive spider) these events function better if they are understood as a mathematical formula with a quota ???
iāll break it down like this ā what each canon event has in common is the purpose and the lesson it is supposed to teach spider-man. the universe can adjust and create exceptions much easier that way, leading to why there are gaps where some universes are intact when according to miguel they should not be.
eg. finding a love interest vs an aromantic spider-person
keeping my interpretation in mind what could happen instead is that the spider-person harbours a strong platonic relationship that serves it purpose to teach the same lessons/award them with the same outcome of character development to help them on their journey. thus, meeting the quota and being recognised as a canon event, continuing their story without altering their universe.
2. not all canon events are necessary.
i think this one is pretty obvious but it has to be said. i think it makes more sense for the āuniverseā to be as fluid as the spider-person who exists within it. some canon events will not be necessary for their story, especially if my theory is correct and taken into account.
miguel suspiciously emphasises the importance of how these story beats creates who spiderman is ā¦
if that is all a canon event is then there should be wiggle room or at the very least fluidity that allows more important/life altering or impactful events to occur and trivial or unnecessary situations to be optional especially if the lesson or purpose they are required to serve there is no need for them??
3. spider-man is not needed for a canon event to take place or be interrupted.
this one will take a bit more explaining so please be patient with me and of course, major major spoilers from here on out.
iāve seen a lot of rebuttals against the ācanonā events theory (and rightfully so, fuck miguel) HOWEVER.
i think we are judging him too quickly, i donāt think miguel is completely wrong but in the same way thereās no way in hell he is right either.
earth-42 is the only universe (that we know of) with no spider-man but how come it hasnāt been swallowed out of existence???
i canāt remember where i found it but when i do find the article iāll attach it to this post but the creators of this film have hinted to miles g morales ā prowler from earth-42 having a key role in the final instalment with them specifically saying ādonāt judge a book by its coverā¦ā
now we know that heroic portrayals of power exist, whoās to say that miles from earth-42 is not operating as a heroic prowler albeit with more unethical/violent methods. in that universe alternate miles has lost both a father and a police captain two canon events in one, it is possible that if the message/lesson he was intended to learn from that life event passed that the canon event was accepted ā¦
remember it is through losing uncle ben that spider-man understands that āwith great power comes great responsibilityā if that lesson is learned and shapes the individual to fight crime in their own way isnāt that them being spider-man?
miles g morales was supposed to be spider-man not the miles we know from earth-1610, he may not be operating as spider-man but he has had his share of trauma and development to fulfil the quota of those necessary story beats, he is still destined to be spider-man. if those things remain intact, technically the canon is unchanged.
there are hundreds of spider people that canonically did not obtain their spider powers through being bitten but their universe still stands.
the implications of the ācanonā event theory miguel presents places more importance on the trauma one has to face to become spider-man rather than the journey of healing, self discovery, identity and love that makes the hero.
ok i think thatās all ??? idk, iāll add more things i noticed and extra points later. feel free to repost, interact with this post + gimme some of your thoughts/takes on the topic. i donāt think iāve seen enough people discussing it so yea, i wanna create a space to uhh discussā¦
anyway bye!
get jumpscared idiot