Fandom Discourse - Blog Posts

i'm aware fandom has always been filled with intense arguments and was never a happy fluffy paradise, but there was etiquette that just feels like it has disappeared. people have really abandoned those unspoken rules of fandom in favour of petty drama and it's extremely frustrating.

if you want some silly drama read a ku erotica book or watch a soap opera. why would you actively engage in fandom content just to make people angry? the worst part is they tag wrong on purpose because it's not about loving x inflammatory ship or x inflammatory character, it's just about pissing people off.

and it's deeply obvious who does this because they may think they're being subtle but there is a frankly embarrassing amount of "oh i don't care about your opinion! look how much i don't care! (but i'm gonna refresh my blog every ten seconds until i see an angry comment or reblog)" energy coming from these posts.

not to sound like an old fart, but i miss the old days where the biggest drama in fandoms were ship wars that were frankly easy to avoid by blocking tags and wether or not pidge from voltron was trans.

i think one of the biggest damages to fandom spaces that social media (and the sort of instant gratification that it spawned) is that nuance is dying.

every fandom i enter (some to a worse degree than others i will admit) is just teeming with bad takes with no nuance. you can't acknowledge a good part of a character without being attacked for supporting someone who's done abc and suddenly being labeled an xyz apologist.

this leads to these dynamic and interesting characters being viewed only through a binary of right and wrong, which destroys the very things that make them feel real and human.

everyone is racing to be morally right in an age where awareness of social injustice is rising and as a result they're either forcing issues that aren't there to criticize a character or ripping them to shreds just to feel morally superior. in doing so not only are they ruining the stories and characters, but they're making these real world issues come off as frivolous and unimportant, when there are actual bodies of work that properly and intentionally explore them.

When i start getting tempted to make posts about fandom and shipping discourse it’s probably time to log of, make some tea and read an actual book with paper pages and all :)

hello lovelies! A small rant, but someone needs to say something. If you actually like incest, pedophilia, or any of that in writing, or even at all, please please seek professional help. I cannot stress this enough. I can’t believe people don’t talk about this enough. I honestly don’t care if you use it to cope, write that for yourself PLEASE and stop putting it on the internet. Get therapy, or at least any kind of help PLEASE

One of my biggest gripes about the dc fandom is how simplified and stripped down ‘child soldier’ became as a term.

Like, ya’ll, I don’t think forcing a rich guy to take you in and make him teach you martial arts is equal to having your entire childhood ripped from the root up for military purposes. That’s just me tho idk

not me getting jump scared by ships I hate

please, just let my guy get dicked down by someone he loves😭

I don't want to sound pretentious but if I remember correctly Yoshida said Ash and Eiji would had end up having sexual intercouse and Ash being on the bottom side.

And its great, tbh. Its great and its hot and its beautiful. So I dont get why the fandom tries to hide it or avoid the topic when there is even a oficial art of Ash in bed sleeping naked next to Eiji.

It's not necessarily bad to sexualize a character based on canonical stuff, much less because having been sexually abused has nothing to do with consensual love.

“this ship is not canon” babe, they’re fictional characters. they’re not real. they’re literally dolls we play with. we don’t care about whether or not these fictional characters’ love story is canon in this piece of media that is also entirely based on fiction. I mean, sure, canon would be lovely, but it’s a bonus. it’s not necessary. what we care about is the fun of talking about these 2 idiots being in love.

we don’t give a fuck if they didn’t kiss in “canon”. they had raw sex in thousands of fics about them though. and I’d say that’s more than enough to make people who ship them happily ship them even harder. happy shipping!

"I hope you go to hell." Boring, lame, boo, tomato tomato

"I hope your favorite POC character gets infantilized/stereotyped and has all signifiers of their culture washed away or misrepresented by white people." Terrifying and can actually happen

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣

Some of y'all SERIOUSLY need better awareness and critical thinking, especially when it comes to POC characters; particularly this issue is more prevalent with black characters and women of color, and how you perceive and react to them.

It's shockingly and VERY concerningly common to see this issue occur and to see the lack of self-awareness or flat out willful ignorance to their own internal biases coming out into fandom spaces and their interactions with media. All too often, there is hypercriticality or malice lunged at POC characters, but their white counterparts or even white characters who are absolutely abominable with their views and/or actions get a pass or even end up with sympathizers trying to excuse their actions and views.

Not to mention, it's getting frighteningly more prevalent/common with the rise of right-wing talking points and ideology; at least here in the States.

We need to be aware and alert about this, and always view media and the analysis or reaction to media, INCLUDING OUR -OWN- VIEWS AND ACTIONS, with a critical and analytical eye. We need to question the "why" behind all of it instead of jumping onto and believing in first instinct.

i know of course that fandoms are not immune from cultural and societal biases but it still disappoints me that people in fandom will be blatantly sexist and racist and not even critically think about where exactly those takes are coming from

I knew fandom culture was too white for me when i saw y'all try to act like censorship of nsfw drawings of children characters was a bad thing, literally fight against it like weirdos. Instead of idk discussing actual problems in fandoms like racism and misogyny.

“I won’t be bothering you anymore with music boxes. I get it now. Donnie is to April like big foot was to donnie. I’m just a mutant.”

Do you see April’s face? Before you guys start saying she’s leading him on or she’s teasing him I want you to look closely at her face.

To me its the face of hurt. Those words donnie said hurt. It wasn’t a pitty kiss. She kissed him because she wanted him to know that she didn’t deny him because of his appearance she denied him because of his actions. And once she realized he was about to totally give up on her she knew she needed to do something to give him some hope.

“Your my mutant” that line right there should tell us something. This is just my insight.

But before you go hating on her why dont you try understanding her before you join the crowd of haters. She’s a teen with a shitty life. No mother or dad. No friend that’s a girl that she can bond with. Nothing. She literally has no one but the turtles and Casey. And donnie is the closest to her and hearing him about to give up on her…..that would hurt any girl right?

I just believe that she doesn’t want to have a boyfriend right now. And honestly if Casey tries to get with her she would probably put him in his place just like she did with donnie but without the whole kiss.

I don’t know I could be wrong but I definitely know that she is no way TEASING or LEADING HIM ON WITH FALSE HOPE. April isn’t that trype of girl. She’s not a bitch. Or a tease. She’s just no I refuse to believe such things. And just like the boys I will defend her and protect her. She doesn’t deserve this harsh treatment she’s getting. Its uncalled for and completely childish. So please before you call her a BITCH, SLUT WHORE, HOE, A TEASE, try understanding her and her feelings and her side of the story.

Am I the only one who thinks that the romance in the 2012 show wasn’t as bad as people say it was? Like I know it had problems, but I’m pretty certain it’s not as god awful as people say it is.

Even though I’m probably the only one who thinks this😂

I’m only speaking for myself but it’d be nice if people could say please or thank you while requesting prompts, asking for advice or anything from gimmick blogs, because I think we as a society has grown so accustomed to google and chatGPT that we sometimes forget people who run gimmick accounts on social media are real people, not robots.

you’re asking for help / advice from real people with lives outside of the internet, real people who will sacrifice their free time researching and making a post that could help you. and this isn’t meant to be guilt tripping at all. this is just me asking people to please say please or thank you while asking for advice / help or requesting something from someone.

I’m always happy to help, it’s just that it would be nice if people treated me like a person and not a robot where they could just order what they wanted without, ya know, a simple please or thank you.

I legit don't understand how fandoms with both books and movies have this one discourse about how SOME book readers believe they're a "better" and "more knowledgeable" fan than everyone else.

I GET IT- THE BOOKS AND MOVIES DIDN'T POTRAY THE EXACT THE SAME THING. I get it dawg the movies weren't accurate. I get it that the books are more accurate and have more significant and important events that WERE NOT POTRAYED in the movies.

And yes, it is 100% YOUR RIGHT to find these flaws. It's your right to ACKNOWLEDGE and CALL IT OUT.

But you guys try to PUT DOWN OTHER WHO DON'T READ THE BOOKS??? 💀💀💀

You don't get to SHAME others who haven't read the books yet. You don't get to shame others who just started watching/reading/following the series. You don't get to shame others based on how many books of THAT SERIS they've read/finished.

Being a fan and being a part of a fandom IS NOT a competition. And it is certainly not a race to finish a book/movie of that series.

Have a nice day 😋🫶 -April

Does... anyone believe anyone can die in bsd? Like, am I that cynical or something?

Like, there have been so many fake outs, so many cliffhangers only for the character to come back next chapter or in some time. And I just... don't know.

I'm tired? I guess?

Like, and Manga spoilers here for every Only anime person:

I dont believe whatever Fukuchi has become has killed anyone? In a sense that they, in time, wont be returned?

Maybe Bram dies (if I know something, characters who get backstories as they die Die forever)

End of spoilers here

But otherwise... the only character that dies in the Manga, if I remember correctly, Is the Director of Atsushi's orphanage?

I genuinely don't know if I it's just me or others have the same feelings?

I never get tired of any fandom discourse. And if I ever do, I'll just block those people.

Man, I've done fandom shit on so many sites but my god TikTok is the WORST

Mainly talking about anime community but God it's awful. No one knows how to tag anything.

The purity culture is insane, assuming that everyone ships the same thing because it's algorithm based and so you only ever see the most popular ships and head cannons. It's like an echo chamber. There's never any new ideas or interesting takes. It's diluted and sanitized.

This is no decorum and to find anything interesting you have to dig through these brainless edits. I think the lack of creativity can be traced back to how much of TikTok is just fitting everything into trends.

I literally was looking for Moriarty the Patriot content and found something else interesting. checked the tags and didn't see anything about alcroft. Then the whole thing was about alcroft. And when it was pointed out the creator said "well It's about Albert. Of course it's going to be about alcroft"

I think cosplay is the only thing it's got going for it

Also, I'll never forgive TikTok for bringing back Nightcore.

Mini rant/my opinion

If this is your approach to people liking your content just block me now

The user who sent this to me probably blocked me in the 20 minutes between them sending the message and me reading it.

A mutual of mine shared one of their posts I thought it looked cool so I liked it

This is just my opinion but someone doesn't have to "belong" to a fandom to enjoy something and if someone likes something you've made that's a good thing! You don't have to be Christian to appreciate the Sistine chapel

Don't get me wrong I am in the Fate fandom. I love Fate. It's just not the only fandom I'm in. My blog is basically just stream-of-consciousness of what I'm thinking about in a moment. In my bio I list my interests and top one is anime. Fate is anime.

This is just so childish! To think that only people who have blogs dedicated to that fandom can interact with your work is ridiculous! If you think that way please block me. I'll be over here having fun with my multifandom mutuals

I saw a post today that really saddened me and so I felt the need to put this out there for everyone. Fandoms can be a lot of fun, but not always, so in case you needed to hear that today...

You're allowed to like any character.

You'll never be a bad person for liking X. Liking a character doesn't mean you condone their actions. You're allowed to find an antagonist interesting. You're allowed to find comfort in a controversial character. You're allowed to love a character and it never gives anyone the right to attack you or ruin your day.

You're allowed to like or find comfort in Enji Todoroki or Akito Soma. You're allowed to like or wish things had gone differently for James Ironwood or Raven Branwen. You're allowed to like Edelgard or Dimitri despite their flaws. Liking a character doesn't make you an abuser. Liking a character doesn't make you a bootlicker. It doesn't make you a fascist. It doesn't mean you're down for murder. It doesn't make you a bad person.

You can like anyone for so many reasons. It doesn't mean you agree with them or condone their actions. It doesn't reflect on who you are as a person.

Don't attack people for simply liking a character. You have NO IDEA why they do or what's going on in their lives. Be kind to each other. We watch & read & play to have fun, to comfort ourselves. We go on Tumblr or Twitter or Instagram to find kinship. What's the point if we become each others' enemy ?

You can disagree about characters, you can find their actions appaling, you can argue that X character is a terrible person. That's fine ! Some characters ARE terrible people and their bad actions aren't acknowledged enough. But you DON'T get to hurt or wish harm upon someone for simply liking a character.

BE KIND.

Fandom Discourse Analysis

Mentions of aging up, enjoying villian characters, and disliking popular characters.

Something I have noticed about anime becoming more popular and mainstream and also the rise in minors in certain spaces is a constant level of discourse over certain topics. I truly believe it’s a good thing anime has become more popular. However, as it brings in more viewers, I think it’s important too open up the conversation surrounding the necessity of distinguishing fiction from reality. There is a lot of posts I see while browsing tags and although I don’t post often I think something needs to be said about three very specific topics that, for me, mean a lot and seem to have a lot of discourse surrounding them. 

One of the things I see happening a lot lately within the community is the hatred against people for liking fictional characters who happen to be minors in their respective animes. The aging up dilemma. First off, let me start by saying that a fictional pixel on a screen does not = minor. It can not be a minor because it is a drawing that was made up whenever the author wrote it. And in a lot of these instances, these characters are crafted by the authors with traits that appeal broadly to audiences, transcending their canon ages. This is particularly evident in shonen anime, where characters are often depicted with maturity, wisdom, or exaggerated physical features that align more closely with adult aesthetics rather than with children. This stylistic choice by many authors is done purposely to cater to a wide demographic, enabling viewers to form connections with characters regardless of age. 

It's important to recognize that a great majority of the time it is NOT the age that attracts viewers to the character which differentiates them with people in real life who are attracted to minors. Having a crush on, or writing about a fictional character that, like I said previously more closely align with adult aesthetics, does not make someone a pedophile. I think when it comes to loli and shota, then yes maybe we can open up this conversation as those characters are made to look like children. But that’s another topic. Acknowledging the fictional nature of these characters and their resemblance to adult fictional characters should be taken into consideration and not be misconstrued as indicative of real-life inclinations towards minors. Not to mention many of these authors don’t want them to be minors which is why they write about them as adults. Again, these are NOT minors. They are drawings and their ages can be changed depending on who’s writing them. An author could come out tomorrow and say the character has always been an adult and that would make it canon. It is not the same as pedophilia. Most people like characters like Sukuna that doesn’t reflect their real life tastes. Which brings me to my next point. 

Liking a villainous character does not correspond to endorsing those actions in real life. Anime often portrays "evil" characters with a depth that makes them appealing through usually through some form of tragic backstory, a charismatic or confident personality, or having extremely complex motivations. I think this makes people often misunderstand that liking them is a reflection of one's real-world values. That is not the case. 

Some people even like these characters just for being attractive and due to the fact they are fictional, and again an authors way of getting people to appeal to said characters, it can not be misconstrued of saying that those actions would be okay in real life scenarios. These characters allow viewers to explore themes of conflict, redemption, and moral ambiguity that can be explored in safety because it’s fiction. I think one of the main reasons people find themselves drawn to them is that villian characters are often created with flaws and authors give them depth to explore said flaws. This is why anti-hero characters are also often seen as more relatable and engaging. Anti-heroes, like villains, aren't bound by the usual moral constraints and often make decisions that are more realistic than heroes would. They can express doubts, conflicts, and vulnerabilities that mirror real human experiences. This makes them intriguing and allows audiences to connect with them on a deeper level.

All that said I think the attraction to villainous or morally grey characters often stems from their complexity and the opportunity they provide for viewers to engage with difficult ideas and emotions in a safe, controlled setting. These characters challenge our perceptions of good and evil by navigating a blurred line between the two which is appealing for most people. 

The last thing I want to bring up which kind of ties in with liking villainous characters is that disliking certain characters beloved by others is not necessarily a negative stance. Anime characters are crafted with diverse backgrounds, personalities, and motives, which naturally produce varied reactions among viewers. Understanding a character's motives yet still disliking them is completely valid and should stop being treated as inherently wrong or a negative reflection of someone. 

People are allowed personal preference and I think that encourages a a better discussion within anime communities whereby differing opinions can coexist. It is through these discussions that fans can dig into character analysis and conversations revolving around characters. Recognizing that disagreement over characters is totally normal and that people can be cool with each other, or be friends and disagree is important in both real life and fiction. 

At the end of the day there is also the block button which I will admit I use when needed, if you disagree with someone’s take. Instead of sending them hate and being a horrible person on the internet. 

Vague Discourse Post (please avoid if you’re not interested, take care of yourself)

Does it ever piss you off when people will go “you’re terrible for liking this character, this character is awful and has done awful things. You’re just lying to yourself if you say that they are out of character in these moments”

And then they turn around and go “this story was awful they completely mischaracterized my favorite character. They would never do this thing. How dare you hate my favorite.”

I’ve just noticed this a lot in a lot of the fandoms I’m a part of. I feel silly getting upset about this but I just needed to get it off my chest.

Hi everyone!

I have to address something that has gone on and is currently occurring. This is the last thing I want to do because I have spent eight years in different fandoms and avoided as much drama as possible. I want no part in it. I want to enjoy my time here.

Unfortunately, this is no longer drama. This is about an individual harming people, their mental health, their safe spaces, their enjoyment of fandom, their favorite ship, and their writing. This is about an individual who chooses bigotry over friendship and will align themselves with bad people for popularity.

And they don’t care who they harm by doing it.

This person made my life a living hell for over five months. It started in August, but things took a turn in October. I was finally free of them in late February because that is when a fandom event ended that tied me to them.

During this event, this person stressed me out to the point of tears. They made passive-aggressive remarks about various things, which made me feel insecure about my fic and writing. They unexpectedly changed their medium and didn’t talk to me about it before they did; I admit I was taken aback, hurt, and short with them. I apologized and took accountability the following day.

From then on, I tried to be as supportive, kind and understanding as possible.

I was “pushy” in December and January because this person had not produced a single finished piece of their art, which would total ten pieces. I knew it was too late in January to get a pinch hitter, and I don’t care that I asked a few times how it was going when I had nothing. I handed them a completed fic on August 28th. They had nothing until mid-January (and almost didn’t make it to this deadline) but didn’t start the bulk of their work until late January 22nd and finished (except polishing and watermarking) on the 26th.

Final submissions were on January 31st.

It took them four days to do what they hadn’t done in five months. I asked if they needed an extension, and we got one because they were not done by the final submission day. I had watched another writer’s artist drop out at the last minute, and mods said they couldn’t find anyone to pinch-hit for them.

This experience was a bad one. I can’t express how shitty it felt. I didn’t write for three months during it, and the fics I’ve written since then aren’t very good. I also have watched my readership disappear—getting the hits and kudos I did before October stopped.

I had a feeling this individual might have been involved if they were talking about me, but I thought I was being paranoid. I still may be, but since this has all happened, I have started to regain readers. I find that interesting.

Anyway! This whole thing ended, and it was bitter for me. I don’t have any more enjoyment in this fandom. I love my ship, but I currently have no desire to write them. I’ve been depressed and I’m scarred from fandom events. This person took away my joy when I only wanted to participate in a fandom event with my friends and have fun.

Because fandom is supposed to be fun, it’s not supposed to do this to people. It’s insane that it does this to people, and I never wanted to be involved in this bullshit.

This person has gone on to enjoy other fandom events, write and produce art, and seems to be doing fine.

Through small but interesting events, I started to learn about this individual’s ‘perspective’ on the entire thing with me. And, hoo boy, it was a fucking ride.

I am still shocked, amazed, flabbergasted and kinda pissed off about how this person lied about me. Everything they said was a complete lie. They shared my DMs via screenshots out of context, warped what we were talking about to play the victim and get sympathy, and flat-out lied numerous times. I have been accused of forcing them to do things during the event when I have screenshot proof that never happened.

For everything this individual accused me of, I provided screenshots to tell the fucking truth.

Two people have told me the same phrasing: they made me out to be a monster.

A monster.

If anyone knows me, my character, they know I’m not a goddamn monster. I try to keep my head down, stay in my lane, play in my sandbox corner, enjoy my ships, and have fun with my friends.

To be called a monster or to have someone say, ‘you’re nothing like they made you out to be,’ is the most surreal moment of my adult life.

This is fiction, fandom; it’s not real, and not everyone makes a living off it. It’s a hobby, and it’s supposed to be enjoyable. Once we step away from our computers and phones, no one knows us as so and so, writer or artist of Ship. Meanwhile, this person is making me out to be the worst human being alive, and it is absolute insanity to learn how deep it goes.

The twists and turns, the lies, the complete lack of reality, the delusion. It’s creepy and disturbing. And, through finding all of this out, I pieced together a pattern of behavior that this individual has:

When you do something they don’t like, they distance themselves, become cold and passive-aggressive, and hold themselves above you. You are no longer of use to them. They dangle their friendship and attention on a lure, hoping you’ll bite, only to throw you back under.

Please understand that this is a dangerous thing—this is not fandom drama—this is a dangerous individual, and the person with whom they choose to spend their time speaks volumes.

I will not share names or screenshots. Screenshots have been shared with the right people, and I will not make it a public spectacle. I also choose to protect the privacy of my friends and others involved in this, of which there are many.

I have been accused of forcing this individual to do things, hating them and their work, being extremely pushy and stressing them out, and that my server was unwelcoming and the people in it were unkind, and various other things. Small things that didn’t mean anything to me were taken extremely personally and made into more lies to make this person a victim.

Such as my preferred formatting for posting my fic links on tumblr. They did not respect it, even though I attempted to respect their formatting for posting their art numerous times earlier, but I was told not to stress about it and, you guessed it—accused of forcing them to change things behind my back. Again, screenshots have been given to the right people.

This individual can delete everything, but we have our proof, as we have been gathering it. We will not publicly share anything, but if this individual decides to, we have the evidence to back it all up.

There were so many creepy and fucked up things that happened. I can’t list them without getting too personal, but please understand this person does not belong in our fandom.

They chase popular people, especially artists, to ‘collect’ them and lie to and manipulate their friends for sympathy. Their friends need to step away and see the light because they are being used—it’s not a real friendship. It is transactional.

And you should be offended. They will cast you aside when you’re useless to them, too.

If I seem mad, it’s because I am. I have been dealing with this since August, when I realized that many of their comments were strange. I didn’t know those were red flags at the time. This individual pretends to be friendly and claims to be ‘the nice one’ when things go wrong so they can keep their reputation. Interactions with them might seem harmless, but looking at them with a different scope makes them something far different.

Don’t ignore red flags or gut instincts.

This is my story, and it is not told exactly how I wish I could tell it. But I know this individual has hurt numerous other people. I was going to make this post without the ability to reblog, but I am leaving it open for now.

If you want to add your story, as I suspect many of you know who I am speaking of, please do. I ask that you avoid telling anyone else’s stories for them unless you have permission. Protect each other.

This stupid shit unites us. I’m not afraid anymore because I’m sick of watching my friends get hurt again and again.

This individual has befriended a known bully and transphobic person. I won’t speak any further on this because it is not my story, but please bear in mind that they chose a TERF over trans friends. And we know what they say about association.

Blindsided victims of this individual are not at fault for this person’s actions.

See something, say something. Terfs and bullies can GET FUCKED.

Share your story.

I am tired of the “either lesbian or pan” notion about Yang. Like when some ppl stop being monosexist and realize that Yang being sapphic doesn’t immediately mean she’s lesbian, she could be bi, they go “oh, she’s pan then!!1!” Like this crowd finally saw the mutlisexual Yang hype and yet! still deny the idea of Bisexual Yang

WHY THIS FANDOM IS SO FUCKING WEIRD TOWARDS JAEHAERA TARGARYEN

TW: SCA, MURDER, CHILD MURDER AND CHILD DEATH, ABLEISM, SUICIDE MENT

People know that I love Jaehaera Targaryen and try to keep my mind in positive things about her, just reading headcanons and seeing art of her and Aegon, or her and her brothers and her mother. But I'm tired of even trying to do that, because this fandom is so weird about her, people still come after us at the minimum possibly of her surviving or at the first sight of someone saying they want her to live (the first two screenshots are from a Reddit post in which I shared an art or Jaehaera and Aegon III, that's all)

I'm tired of this "oh to keep her alive would be so cruel with her and Aegon" like they care for her.

Dude, she is just an innocent child, as much as Aegon III. They say "how can you want them married, her father killed his mother". And his father orchestrated the murder of her twin brother who led at the death of her mother. But we all know that that have nothing to do with her.

Both comments are from the same person 💀 they start like "she wouldn't survive because that would be so cruel" (yeah, it is not cruel killing a 10yo girl) but then they can't stand the possibility of someone liking her and wanting her to live and they talk in the most despicable way about her and how she deserved to be replaced as soon as she died.

Why is it so difficult to accept the fact that the little girl has supporters who want her to live? But they can't, they need to be an asshole for free.

Jaehaera is a child, prone to cry, but happy. Her murder was cruel and unnecessary. It has nothing to do with her being the daughter of his mother's killer or with her being a green.

Even if you doubt of Elio Garcia's words, it has never been stated for George that the reason to kill her was because she, as a green, needed to die.

Like why, what did the little girl to deserve to be minimized? Just to exist and be from the TG.

They really think that everyone is like them, that everyone is going to lose their mind for the possibility of a little child from the other team surviving.

Joffrey's death, even while the dance was still happening, was unnecessarily cruel and of course I won't get mad for the possibility of him surviving. The only criticism I would make about that is that it would be so biased to have 5 kids of the TB surviving and killing all the TG kids. But not because of that I will be like "he NEEDS to die" and will get mad for people wanting him to survive. If that happens it would be fair for me wanting Jaehaera to survive too.

And god, the ableism here is so unhinged.

It is so fucking ironic how they can be like "how can you like a character with two lines" and "she is a r*tarded child and she was never gonna give Aegon III heirs" like decide, she "only has two lines" or you can know everything about her, her mental state and how would have been her life?

And lets start with the cruelty toward her: it is so fucking weird

They want her to suffer like what, what did her to deserve that???

I will add more screenshots but I've reached my limit in this post 🫡

They have gone so far as to wish her little brother to be raped and murdered, to mess with the actress who plays Jaehaera (who is a little girl) and to compare her to rats or stray dogs.

People who know me knows that I am on the "separe between fiction and reality" side, but talking like this is too much, getting angry for people not thinking like you because they want her to live and commenting their posts mad because she NEEDS to die is too much, and messing with the actress who plays the girl is too much.

"He would not say that" but it's the canonical content :]

MENTIONS OF SA, ABUSE, AND DARKSHIPPING UNDER THE CUT. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

⚠️ rant post

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as a pro and darkshipper myself, it genuinely confuses me how people do not see how billford IS a darkship.

do you people forget that alex has literally stated before that he based bill off of ab-sers, such as the ones who those he knew were victims of? it is literally CANON that bill ab-ses ford and his entire family CONSTANTLY. that is ALL he does, in the show, in tbob, everywhere. there has never been one moment where bill has not been ab-sing and harming ford in one way or another - even if they were getting along in stanford's earlier years, that's still gaslighting, manipulation, power imbalance, monster x human, and a lot more. several times he uses fords body against his own will and FORCEFULLY exposes his naked body to the public, obviously, WITHOUT CONSENT. how in the world would that not be SA??

i think that even though bill is just about the fan-favorite of gravity falls, aswell with billford, trying to go against this CANON TIMELINE is blatant denial.

i am in no way saying you CANT like bill, im profiction myself. but at the least try to understand the character that he ACTUALLY is. billford is certainly not my cup of tea, but I cant stop anyone from shipping two fictional characters, especially as a literal darkshipper. do whatever with whatever character, its all fiction. point is - if you're going to swoon over a character and ship something along with 90% of the fandom, go ahead, do this, but acknowledge the fact that he is NOT JUST a precious misunderstood silly lil triangle dude. he can be those things, duh. but that's for sure not ALL he is. billford still IS a darkship, and it IS, and has always been ab-sive.

I think being a puritan, especially openly, when it comes to fandom is a bad thing, actually. How have people lost the plot when it comes to making and engaging with fanfiction especially??

"Don't yuck someone's yum"

"If you want to see it sometimes you have to make it"

"Don't like, don't read"

"It costs $0 to be kind"

All of these should be commonly understood as How You Interact In A Community, yet still, people don't get it.