Female Space Marines - Blog Posts

Oh, and last thing for the night. Here is my take on Fem Lorgar. I felt inspired.

This is to go with my other post where I gave my shpeal on why Morty works so much better as a woman.

I didn't wanna add this to it/reblog it with this because that post was too long already, and the other post was more about how there should be more primarch moms.(adopted mothers of the scattered primarchs)

And this one is:

Which Primarchs work better as women/femme:

Putrabo

Konrad Curze

Mortarion

Jagathai Khan

Magnus

Leman Russ

Okay, now explanations (warning this is gonna be looonggg)

Also, this is just my opinion. Please feel free to change and argue why!!! I love in-depth literary analysis and debate!

So, fist off after that, yes, I feel a majority of the traitors would make more sense as women, specifically their storylines, seem to work well with women leads. And would offer a more nuanced reading. (Also, this would totally piss off those fucking anti-woke chuds)

- Perturabo(Petra)- I could have also made dorn fem but I like the extra dichotomy their relationship is given as a brother sister dynamic. Both are different sides of the same coin. Even more so.

She would also be underestimated and compared to her shining golden brother. Her hate is that of women just as qualified for a job getting skipped over for an equally qualified man. (Yes, I know Putrabo's made to know how to tear things down where Dorn is made to fortify. But again, it's allegorical, that extra layer)

-Konrad (Kassandra)- she'd be such a Bipolar queen. Okay, done... nah, I got a little more.

So I feel not much is different until u reach that adult phase, more so than the others. Her madness and lunacy are painted much worse, but she's still on business. She despises her father(Emps) but does as she says. She's the freaky screwed up daughter (very Jinx-like) where Sanguinia is the perfect daddy's girl, and it makes Kass sick.

Mortarion(Morticia)- please see previous post

Jagathai Kahn(Khutulun) - okay, little out of left field, and truthfully, I don't know enough about the cannon warhawk to justify saying that a fem Warhawk is "better" but I wanted at least one othe loyalist fem primarch. Also, this lets me keep the yuricest between her and Magnolia (Magnus)

Magnus (Magnolia)- speaking of the red cyclops, I think having the biggest primarch be fem is just phenomenal, also it adds a woman confidently attempting to uptain more understanding of the universe as a whole, being very scientific in her approach only to be called sorceress/witch in the persuit of knowledge. And in the end, only to be driven mad trying to get even the smallest bit of control.

(Also, as mentioned above, a huge bonus of it keeps my Khan x Magnus ship gay and better, yuri)

-Leman Russ(Freya) OK, so I feel Feya works better than her male counterpart only because it would be almost poetic. Having her raised by a mother wolf and so she takes that role over for her sons(legion).

Again, these are just my opinions, so if u disagree, that's totally fine! 😊 I love sparking discussions and seeing where other people's heads are at.

And sorry if this isn't really coherent. I'm kinda writing this sleep deprived and starving. 😅

Imma make ramen now 😆 🤣

I haven't drawn them in a bit, but I still love my two doomed space lesbians. And I needed a break from reality.

The funny thing is that the lore of these two is that Thea(the Sister of Battle) is way more sexual and sluty towards Abbi (The Noise Marine) and Abbi is so easily flustered.

Couldn't sleep last night, so, Ta-da! I did a little more Evolese

also, yes, this is a Shera screen grab.

Last thing for tonight.

I've been working on fleshing out Abbigail's Warband of "failed" experiments from Fabius.

Can u tell which one I liked the most?

If you can't see, her name is Evolese Maw and I love her! She is my first Yeen oc. And here is her mini

She's almost done. I just started painting her today.

Unfortunately, I didn't have a 3d printed yeen head. So she has to wear a helmet.🥺

Here are the first 4 pgs for Abbigail and Thea

It's been on a long hiatus and might stay that way for a little longer. Sorry.

And here we have my Plauge Marine Greater possessed/Demon Prince oc. I dot really have a ton of personal lore on her yet, but she does lead my custom Death Gaurd Warband "The Masque of the Crimson Rot"

Their colour scheme is red with gold trim and pail pink flesh, and their energy is green.

Here are my fav two ocs I've made for warhammer.

Abbigail(Abbi) - One of Fabius Biles attempts to make fem marines from scratch. However, her and all her sisters turned out wrong, save the Fem clone of fulgrim he made. Abbi is actually mute as using her voice would cause an uncontrollable sound blast. She is also very shy and "reseverd" for a child of the Phonecian. With help from their clone mother, Abbi and the others escaped before they could be "repourposed". Now they lead a ramshackle warband of themselves and exiled warriors from the Emperor's Children, headed by both Fem Fulgrim and a mysterious fem marine that wasn't created with the rest and has infact been around since the Heresy.

Anathia (Thea)- is a trans girl from an agri-world who always wanted to be a sister of battle but never got selected. Then, one day, her planet suffered an invasion from the Sons of Malice. She found a fallen sister who gave her her sword to defend them both. Unfortunately the Sister was too wounded and succumbed to her injuries. Thea seeing the opportunity finally present herself she dawns the Sisters armour and takes the fallen's place. While she is discovered pretty quickly, something causes the Cannoness to spare Thea.

I am making a comic about it, which I will be posting (I have 4 pages done so far)

A proper response to the Templin Institute's female Space Marines video

Since shitposts and shower thoughts aren't exactly effective forms of media discourse.

About two years ago, the Templin Institute made a video discussing why female Space Marines exist in warhammer 40k. Two weeks ago I decided to rewatch it to see if it was as bad as I remembered or if I was just going through a reactionary anti-woke phase. You can find the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZatVIVggl0

Boy, was I disappointed. It was like they took an anti-woke grifter, forced them to write an essay about why female Space Marines should exist, and then edited out all the reactionary bigotry. Hell, the title sounds like it's going to be bitching about "how dare women exist in my exclusively male hobby" and how "the woke mob is ruining warhammer!". Though, the title might be intentional, to get antiwokers to click on a video that challenges their views. Like something an anti-woke grifter would produce, the core argument of the video is rooted in a flawed premise, and it implies a degree of ill intent in those who disagree.

The core of the Templin Institute's argument is a re-interpretation of a line of thought that I have seen quite often in anti-woke arguments: Warhammer 40k lore has not changed. Now this might not sound right. In the video they mention multiple instances of old lore that newer lore has contradicted, from chaos androids to mortal general Horus. But while they do acknowledge that these instances of older lore do exist in contradiction to newer lore, they fail to acknowledge that the old lore is no longer canon. Where the antiwoker says "nothing has been added to Warhammer 40k lore", Templin says "nothing has been removed from Warhammer 40k lore". The lore no longer says that the Chaos Androids were a thing, it no longer says that the Horus Heresy lasted seven days and seven nights, it no longer says that Horus was but a mortal general who served the Emperor, and a headcanon that involved those would very much go against canon. Knowledge of the Imperium's history did not change in light of new evidence--the history itself changed. New information was not discovered, nor was old information repressed. Canon, "reality" from the point of view of Warhammer 40k, was what changed, not what people knew about it.

I don't have a problem with people having a headcanon that contradicts official canon--before they were added in officially last April, I had my own headcanon that there were, in fact, female members of the Adeptus Custodes, despite canon saying otherwise. Hell, this is what homebrew armies are. Some people might try to keep some veneer of canon-compliance with their homebrew, but we all are aware that it's ultimately fanfiction. Our homebrew isn't canon, and that's okay. (and if someone shows me a painted mini of a female space marine, my reaction is going to be about the same as it would be to a space marine of a homebrew chapter, and the reaction I'd hope to get from someone I showed a mini from my own homebrew chapter--"that's a cool mini, nice paint job painting it".)

What I have a problem with is presenting it as an equal interpretation to the lore as a headcanon that does not contradict official canon. Before the 10th edition codex released, my headcanon about female Custodes was not my interpretation of what the lore says about the gender of the Custodes. It was certainly colored by my interpretation of other parts of the lore, but it was ultimately me taking canon information and saying "no, I think this is cooler". If, before the retcon, I told someone about that headcanon, they would have had every right to tell me that what I believed wasn't canon, just as now I have every right to tell someone claiming that female Custodes are some foul Tzeentchian plot to corrupt the Imperium that it isn't canon.

Another issue with the video is how its logic is so Imperium-centric. Yes, everyone may have their own interests in how much of the truth they tell you, but not everyone has those same interests. If every book and game was from the point of view of the Imperium, then their argument might hold more water. As it stands, however, that is not the case. What interest might say, the Necrons, have in pretending that the Space Marines are exclusively male? What about the T'au or the Eldar? The Necrons and Eldar especially would not be upholding the Imperium's narrative. Both were around, even if only in small numbers, for the entirety of the Imperium's history, and would more than likely know if the Space Marines were mixed-gender. The Imperium of Man is quite obviously steeped in superstition and high off its own propaganda, but when the Imperium, Eldar, T'au, and Necrons are all saying the same thing, I'd wager that the Imperium is probably telling the truth.

At the end of the video, the Templin Institute says this:

"Let's make a deal. If you decide to argue with me in the comments, include the following phrase somewhere in your argument: 'you will die as your weakling father died'. You will get the satisfaction of tearing me down with a badass line, and I and everyone else, at the very least, will know that you watched this entire video, were open to what you had to say, and that your argument is being made in good faith".

This has this undertone of hostility to it, which makes me doubt how much they are really arguing in good faith. I do not believe it is normal to take satisfaction in "tear(ing) (your opponents) down with a badass line" in debates, and it feels very much like the kind of thing someone does when they no longer have any real arguments to make. It almost implies that, if you want to argue with them, you don't have any real arguments and must resort to insults and badass quotes to cover for it. Granted, given how many of the comments went, they weren't that far off (frankly the anti-wokers are more cringe than Templin was here, but I don't think I need to write an essay about why that is), but it still feels like it was done in bad faith.

Lastly, I want to discuss the comment they made, about ten months ago: "Well, well well, look who was completely right". This was (almost certainly) made in response to the female custodes retcon back when the 10th edition codex dropped. They are, quite ironically, misinterpreting Games Workshops tweet "since the first of the Ten Thousand were created, there have always been female Custodians" the same way all of the people screaming "gaslighting" about it are--as a statement about the real world. The simple fact is that no, Games Workshop wasn't talking about the real world. The lore used to say that there are no female Custodians, and now it says that there have been female Custodians since the Unification Wars. This isn't proof for the Templin Institute's arguments any more than M'shen was vindication for Konrad Curze (no, Big E sending an assassin to kill him for turning traitor was not proof that he was in the right to skin people alive for the slightest misdemeanor).

I don't hate the Templin Institute, and I think people who hate them for wanting female Space Marines are childish at best. But that video stands as a black mark on their record.

Honestly, the more I think about it, the more the Templin Institute's female Space Marines video feels like something an anti-woke grifter would make. For the dark gods' and the Emperor's sake, it's titled "Female Space Marines and the Death of Canon". If someone told me to watch a video with that title, I'd expect it to be someone bitching about "how dare women exist in my totally exclusively male hobby" and how "the woke mob is trying to destroy warhammer", and not the exact opposite. The only part of the video that lines up with what I'd expect from the title is how poorly-constructed the arguments are.

I'll probably write up a proper response to the video next week when I'm on spring break, it's been weighing on me far more than it should.